Mannin in Carter County – 1870 Census

Census Sunday
By Don Taylor

Photo of Don Taylor with cat Nasi.In my look at the Mannin Family of Carter County during the 1880 Census, I discovered six families and 37 individuals. Continuing, I would expect to find five families during the 1870 Census. Meredith A. Mannin would be 14-years-old and would be expected to be with his parents.

1870 Census

A search for “Mannin” in Carter County, Kentucky, yielded six families who were enumerated in the county in 1880. All six were in Precinct 4; all were in Enumeration District 15, suggesting they all lived nearby each other. They were:

Enock Mannon (Enoch Mannin in 1880 Census) – Born c. 1822.

      • Manuroa Mannon (Manerva in the 1880 Census) – Born c. 1822.
      • Meredith Mannon (Age 24 in the 1880 Census) – Born c. 1851.
      • Mary Mannon – Born c. 1854.
      • Gazzeller Mannon – Born c. 1854.
      • Prudence Mannon – Born c. 1854.

Isaac Mannin – I have not been successful in finding Isaac, Tennessee, or Samuel McKee Mannin in the 1870 Census. I would expect them to be 22, 22, and 2 years old, respectively.

Thomas Mannen – (Thomas H. Mannin in 1880 Census) – Born c. 1827.

      • Rachal 1839
      • Merideth 1854
      • Sarah 1857
      • John 1859
      • Samuel 1861
      • Mary 1863
      • Zachariah 1865

There are two (implied) older children living in the household, Merideth, and Sarah. Sarah probably married out before the 1880 Census. Merideth, in this family, could be the same Meredith I’ve previously ascribed as the son of Enoch. I will need to look at the two Meredith more carefully and figure out which Meredith married whom and had which children.

Tubil Mannan (Tubal Mannin in 1880 Census) – Born c. 1831.

      • Elizabeth Mannan – Born c. 1834, VA.
      • Mary Mannan – Born c. 1854.
      • Martha Mannan – Born c. 1856.
      • John Mannan – Born c. 1858.
      • Vanlandingham Mannan – Born c. 1862.
      • James Mannon – Born c. 1864.
      • Sarah Mannon – Born c. 1868.

Two daughters, Mary & Martha, probably “married out” between the 1870 and 1880 censuses.

Wm C Manning – (Mannin in 1880 Census) – Born ca. 1846.

      • Martha E Mannin Born c. 1850
      • Alvin Mannin Age 10/12 (Born Aug 1869)

The family was living in Pendleton County, Kentucky, which is about 30 miles south of Cincinnati and about a hundred miles west of Carter County. That means the William C. Manning family moved from west to east between 1870 and 1880.

I discovered one new individual, Merideth Mannin. Living with him was a Richardson family consisting of a husband and wife with three children and three additional teenagers. One is likely the sister of James Richardson (based on age and surname); the other two were Ruben and Evaline Tapp.

Follow-up

Look at the two Meredith Mannins in the 1870 Census more carefully and figure out which Meredith married whom and had which children.

Conclusion

The 1870 Census didn’t provide any real clarity to understanding the Mannin families of mid 19th century Carter County. It did lead to other questions about which of two Meredith Mannin’s was the one enumerated in the 1880 Census.

Sources

    • 1870 Census (NARA), 1870 – Enock Mannon – Grayson, Carter, Kentucky – Page 10. Year: 1870; Census Place: Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky; Roll M593_454; Page: 131B; Image: 266; Family History Library Film: 545953. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?h=17854241&db=1870usfedcen&indiv=1.
    • 1870 Census (NARA), 1870 – Thomas Mannen. “United States Census, 1870”, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MX75-MTZ : 18 March 2020), Entry for Thomas Mannen, 1870.
    • 1870 Census (NARA), 1870 – Tubil Mannan. “United States Census, 1870”, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MX75-M51 : 18 March 2020), Entry for Tubil Mannan, 1870.
    • 1870 Census (NARA), 1870 – William C Manning – Pendleton, Kentucky. “United States Census, 1870”, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MX4M-QB6 : 19 March 2020), Entry for Wm C Manning, 1870.

Mannin in Carter County – 1880 Census

Census Sunday
By Don Taylor

Photo of Don Taylor with cat Nasi.One of my truly difficult lines to follow is my 2nd great-grandmother, Elisa Jane [or Lisa J.] (Fannin) Mannin. Several other researcher’s trees suggest her maiden surname was “Mannin” and was probably a cousin of John William Mannin. I have only discovered her named in one or two documents.

In any event, I want to understand the Mannin families of Carter County, Kentucky in the mid to late 1800s. I have very little direct evidence regarding the Mannin family and how various relations exist. So, if I start with the 1880 Census, which describes relationships, I should be able to track the families back in time.

1880 Census

A search for “Mannin” in Carter County, Kentucky yielded six families who were enumerated in the county in 1880. All six were in Precinct 4 and all were in Enumeration District 15, suggesting they all lived nearby each other. They were:

Enoch Mannin – Sheet 547D – Previously incorporated in my tree.

      • Enoch, Head – Age 57.
      • Manerva, wife – Age 59.

Isaac Mannin – Sheet 547D – Apparently the 2nd head of household in the same dwelling – Previously incorporated.

      • Isaac Mannin,                    Head – Age 32
      • Tenisee Mannin,               Wife – Age 32
      • Sam Mc Kee Mannin        Son – Age 12
      • Henry M Mannin               Son – Age 9
      • Frances P Mannin             Son – Age 7
      • James H Mannin                Son – Age 5
      • Phodeena Mannin             Daughter – Age 0

Merideth A. Mannin – Sheet 546B – Previously incorporated.

      • Merideth A Mannin Head – Age 24
      • Sousan F Mannin      Wife – Age 25
      • Rachal E Mannin       Daughter – Age 3
      • Sarah M Mannin        Daughter – Age 1

Thomas H. Mannin – Sheet 546A – Previously incorporated.

      • Thos H Mannin            Head – Age 52
      • Rachal Mannin             Wife – Age 42
      • John J Mannin               Son – Age 21
      • Samuel T Mannin        Son – Age 19
      • Mary D Mannin            Daughter – Age 17
      • Zachariah W Mannin Son – Age 15
      • Eliza F Mannin             Daughter – Age 5

Tubal Mannin – Sheet 539D – Previously incorporated.

      • Tubal Mannin                Head – Age 50[i]
      • Elizabeth J Mannin       Wife – Age 44 (Born Virginia)
      • John L Mannin                Son – Age 22
      • Valandinghan Mannin Son – Age 16
      • James S Mannin             Son – Age 14
      • Sarah C Mannin             Daughter – Age 10
      • Amanda L Mannin        Daughter – Age 7
      • Willie Mannin                Son – Age 1
      • Killie Mannin                Daughter – Age 1

William C Mannin – Sheet 546A – New Family for me.  I entered Names, relationships, year and place of birth and residence during the 1880 Census based upon this record.

      • Wm C Mannin            Head – Age 34
      • Martha E Mannin     Wife – Age 30
      • Alvin Mannin              Son – Age 10
      • Montaville Mannin  Son – Age 9
      • Silas Mannin               Son – Age 8
      • Arminta Mannin       Daughter – Age 5
      • Asbury Mannin          Son – Age 2
      • William C Mannin    Son – Age 0

All of the individuals were born in Kentucky except for Tubal’s wife, Elizabeth [Mannin].

Conclusion

Six families and 37 individuals with the Mannin surname lived, according to the 1880 Census, in Carter County in 1880. Note: John William Mannin(g) and his wife, Lisa, appear to be living in adjoining Rowan County, Kentucky during the 1880 Census.

Sources

  • 1880 Census, 1880 – Enoch Mannin – Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky – ED 15, Page 20 (FS). Year: 1880; Census Place: Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky; Roll T9_408; Family History Film: 1254408; Page: 547.4000; Enumeration District: 15; Image: 0374.
  • 1880 Census, 1880 – Isaac Wilson Mannin – Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky; Roll: 408; Family. “United States Census, 1880,” database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCCH-V4Y : 29 August 2017), Phodeena Mannin in household of Isaac Mannin, Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky, United States; citing enumeration district ED 15, sheet 547D, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm 1,254,408.
  • 1880 Census, 1880 – Merideth A. Mannin -. “United States Census, 1880,” database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCCH-NXL : 29 August 2017), Sarah M Mannin in household of Merideth A Mannin, Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky, United States; citing enumeration district ED 15, sheet 546B, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm 1,254,408.
  • 1880 Census, 1880 – Thomas H Mannin – Precinct No. 4 – Carter, Kentucky. “United States Census, 1880,” database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCCH-N6P : 29 August 2017), Eliza F Mannin in household of Thos H Mannin, Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky, United States; citing enumeration district ED 15, sheet 546A, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm 1,254,408.
  • 1880 Census, 1880 – Tubal Mannin, Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky. “United States Census, 1880,” database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCCH-FZ8 : 29 August 2017), Killie Mannin in household of Tubal Mannin, Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky, United States; citing enumeration district ED 15, sheet 539D, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm 1,254,408.
  • 1880 Census, 1880 – William C. Mannin. “United States Census, 1880,” database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCCH-FCB : 29 August 2017), William C Mannin in household of Wm C Mannin, Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky, United States; citing enumeration district ED 15, sheet 546A, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm 1,254,408.”United States Census, 1880,” database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCCH-FCB : 29 August 2017), William C Mannin in household of Wm C Mannin, Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky, United States; citing enumeration district ED 15, sheet 546A, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm 1,254,408.

Endnotes

[i]  Other records suggest Tubal was born in Missouri.

 

Lisa J Fannin and the Ancestry Trees.

Brown-Manning-Fannin
By Don Taylor

Photo of Don Taylor with cat Nasi.I’ve never been entirely comfortable with my entries for family relationships for my Great-grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Manning. I know my tree in that area goes back 30 years ago or more and was based upon other people’s trees. I know that her sister was Phoebe Jane Manning. It appears that her father was John William Manning and her mother was Lisa (possibly Elisa) Jane Fannin. The problem is that I don’t have sources for those relationships. I also believe that she had a half-brother, Robert J. Manning. Again, I don’t have much in the way of sources for that information.  So, I thought I look at other people’s trees on Ancestry and see what they have for sources.  There were two women that appeared to be my ancestor:

  1. Elisa J Fannin (1861-1880), married to John Mannen (1841-1919). The only source used in any of five trees that relate to her only cite other trees. Additionally, this John Mannen died in 1919, which would be inconsistent with other aspects of my Lisa Fannin’s husband.
  2. Lisa J. Mannin (1861-1880), married to John William “Joe” Mannin. This John Mannin appears to be correct, however, I’m not convinced this is the correct individual either, but more about that after I’ve analyzed the documents. Ancestry indicates there are 58 trees associated with Lisa J. Mannin.

The majority of trees that Ancestry associates associated with Lisa J. Mannin only have other trees as their sources, however, the first tree has 2 sources associated with it. So, I’ll take a look at those first.

1880 Census – I had already found John and Lisa in the 1880 Census. Nothing new there.

1870 Census – George M. Mannin household consisting of an implied wife and four children. Lisa’s name in this census is Louisa J. Mannin. The age is correct (9) but the name is different, and the location is questionable. This Census location is Greenup County. John lived in Bath County before the Civil War and He and Lisa lived in Rowan county in 1880. The logistics of a young girl marrying an older man from two counties away seems difficult for me to reconcile.

So, absent any compelling connections, I will not ascribe Louisa to my Lisa; however, I will add tracing the George M. Mannin household to future tasks.

Kentucky Marriage Records – The next source shows the marriage between John W. Mannin to Sarah J Garvin. The couple took out a license on July 29, 1868 and married the following day in Carter County by a Judge of CC. The individual whose tree provided this source is incorrect in ascribing it to John and Elisa’s marriage. However, it might provide insight into who might have been John’s son’s mother. I tentatively added this record as a “first marriage for John W. Mannin.” There is nothing compelling that this John W. Mannin is my (2nd Great-Grandfather) John Mannin other than name and location. I need to find other evidence to collaborate this is my John W. Mannin.

1860 Census – Simon Manning household consisting of an implied wife and one child, a girl Eliza Manning. Lisa was 19 in the 1880 Census, so it appears unlikely this two-year-old is the same person. I might add a note to Lisa’s profile: Do not confuse with Eliza Manning, born 1857-1858 Implied daughter of Simon and Polloy Manning.

There are 14 private trees identified on Ancestry which appear to have Lisa J. Mannin. All of them either have no records or only 1 record associated to Lisa. As such, I suspect they are all citing Ancestry Trees.

Conclusion

Other people didn’t have sources any better than mine. So, I should probably explore surname studies or other research avenues.

Future Actions

Trace the George M. Mannin household through other censuses.

The George M. Mannin household in 1870[i] consisted of:

      • George Mannin           49
      • Elizabeth Mannin        33
      • Martha A                     12
      • John B                         10
      • Louisa J                         9
      • James D                        8

Follow John W. Mannin and his wife Sarah Gavin in other records.


ENDNOTES

[i] Year: 1870; Census Place: Precinct 3, Greenup, Kentucky; Roll: M593_466; Page: 67A; Family History Library Film: 545965

 

Ancestor Sketch – James Walter

Darling-Swayze-Walter
By Don Taylor

Image by Kate Honish from Pixabay

It is always difficult to follow a person’s records when their name is recorded differently over the years.  James’ surname was recorded as “Waters,” “Walter,” and “Walters” over the many years. I have settled on Walter because it appears to be the surname he was buried with. James was a Patriot, serving in a Virginia artillery detachment during the Revolutionary War.

Howell/Darling – Ancestor #102

List of Grandparents

James Walter (aka Walters, aka Water) (1752-1838)

James Walter was born on either 16 or 17 Feb 1752.[i]in the Province of Maryland (now state of Maryland). He was the first child of John Walter and Ann Parker. He had five siblings, namely: William, Rebecca Conyers, Richard, Lawrence, and James.

Military service

Image courtesy of the Kentucky Secretary of State.

James was a Sergeant in the Revolutionary War. It appears that he joined up about 1777 in Virginia. On 02 Apr 1782 he was assigned to an Artillery detachment commanded by Capt-Lt Lewis Booker. He was known as the “Forage Master.” After the war, he received a warrant for 400 acres of Bounty Land, in what would become Kentucky, for his Revolutionary War Service to Virginia.

In 1793, when he was 40, he married Margaret Ann Swan of Virginia.

James and Margaret Ann (Swan) Walter had six (known) children.

    1. Nancy Anne Walter was born in 1788.
    2. Elkina Walter was born in 1789. she died in 1852.
    3. Catherine Ann Dent Walter was born on 15 Jun 1794 in. She married David Swayze on 30 Jan 1817 in Fairfield County, Ohio. She died on 16 Apr 1868 in Kalamazoo, Michigan, at the residence of her daughter, Elizabeth.
    4. James C Walter was born in 1800; he died in 1874.
    5. Elizabeth Walter was born before 05 Jan 1804[ii].
    6. John Walter was also born before 05 Jan 1804ii.

In 1804, James Walter executed a Deed of Trust transferring his property in Kentucky to Elijah Pollard of Frederick, Virginia, USA

James Walter died on 10 May 18381 in Lancaster, Fairfield County, Ohio, USA. He was buried at the Old Methodist Cemetery. Later, he was reinterred at the City Burial Plot, Lancaster, Fairfield County, Ohio.

Continue reading “Ancestor Sketch – James Walter”

Ancestor Sketch – Emily Maples Hendricks Scott

Roberts-Scott-Hendricks
By Don Taylor

My research into Emily Hendricks was able to provide the names of her parents, Vaden Hendricks and his wife Sylvania Brown, whom I’ve added to my Roberts-Barnes tree. Now we know where 2nd great-grandfather, Samuel Vaden Scott, got his middle name. Tracing Emily through the 1850 and back to the 1840 Census records was a bit difficult (See Emily Hendricks in the 1840 & 1850 Censuses), but I made it through.

As is common with families at this time, the spelling of the surname is fluid. I prefer Hendricks; however, Hendrix is occasionally used. I typically use the surname as written in the record I am using/citing.

Roberts-Barnes – Ancestor #37

List of Grandparents

  • Grandfather: Bert Allen Roberts(1903-1949)
  • 1st Great-grandmother: Clora Dell ScottRoberts Adams (1883-1945)
  • 2nd Great-grandfather: Samuel Vaden Scott(1862-1931)
  • 3rd Great-grandmother: Emily Maples Hendricks (1836-1878)
  • 4th Great-grandfather: Vaden Hendricks (c. 1805-bef. Jun 1850)

Emily Maples Hendricks Scott (1836-1878)

Birth

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Emily Maples Hendricks was born on 22 October 1836 in Kentucky. She was the second of four children of Vaden and Sylvania (Brown) Hendricks. Nineteen Thirty-Six was same year that Arkansas became a state and the Alamo fell in the siege of Mexican forces lead by General Antonio López de Santa Anna.

Childhood

She apparently had two older brothers. One, whose name is still unknown appears in the 1840 Census as a male aged 10 to 15. He doesn’t appear with the family in the 1850 Census and is presumed to have had a family of his own.

Her older brother, Willian, was about five years older than her.

Her first younger sister, Nancy, was born about 1839 in Kentucky.

About 1839 or 1840, the Hendricks family moved from Kentucky to St. Clair County, Illinois.

St. Clair County was growing by leaps and bounds. Between 1830 and 1840, the county nearly doubled in population.

1840

1840 Census – Baden Hendrix Household

<5 5-10 10-15 15-20 20-30 30-40 40 to >100
Males 1 1 1 All Blank
Females 2 1 All Blank

One more sister, Mary, was born in 1841, after the family moved to St Clair County, Illinois.[i]

1850

The 1850 Census suggests that her father has died or has abandoned the family. Her mother, Sylvania, is the only adult in the household in Washington Co., Illinois. Living with them are Emily’s two younger sisters and one of her older brothers, William.

Household                          Sex  Age  Birthplace
Sylvania Hendricks             F       42     Kentucky
William Hendricks              M      19     Kentucky
Emily Hendricks                  F        15     Kentucky
Nancy E Hendricks             F        11      Kentucky
Mary J Hendricks                F        9       Illinois

Marriage

I believe that Emily married William Hunt Scott on 12 September 1856 in Washington County, Illinois.

Children of William and Emily (Hendricks) Scott

Child Birthdate Birthplace (all Illinois)
Viola S Scott Feb or Mar 1860 Washington Co.
Samuel Vaden Scott 23 Aug 1863 Washington Co.
Francis Perry Scott 25 Mar 1870 St. Clair Co.
William Alonzo Scott 03 Oct 1871 St. Clair Co.

Adulthood

The 1860 Census shows William and Emily living in Washington County with “V” (Viola). Of interest is that above them on the census, (probably next door) are William’s parents, Samuel and Elizabeth and many of their children.

The 1870 Census shows William and Emily. The household consists of William, Emily, Viola, Sam, and Francis. I believe there is an error in that particular census as it reports Emily as being 23 (when she was 33).  Not a big error but noted.

Death & Burial

Find a Grave Marker

On October 27, 1878, Emily died in Franklin County, Illinois. She was buried at the Hammond Cemetery, Sesser, Franklin County, Illinois.

 

 

Events by Location

St. Clair County, Illinois Washington County, Illinois
  • Kentucky – 1936-1839 – Birth
  • Clair County, Illinois – 1840-c.1849– Residence
  • Clair County, Illinois – 1870-1878 – Birth of Francis Perry Scott, Residence, and William Alonzo Scott, death and burial.
  • Washington County, Illinois – 1850-1860 – Residence, Marriage to William Hunt Scott, Viola’s birth, and Samuel’s birth.

Further Actions / Follow-up

  • More Location-Historical Research

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Sources

  • “United States Census, 1850,” database
with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M85-FL4 : 12 April 2016), Sylvania Hendricks, Washington county, Washington, Illinois, United States; citing family 1241, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  • 1860 Census (NARA), 1860 – William H Scott (Wm K Scott). Year: 1860; Census Place: Township 3 S Range 4 W, Washington, Illinois; Roll: M653_235; Page: 942; Family History Library Film: 803235. https://search.ancestry.com/collections/7667/records/37930464.
  • “United States Census, 1870,”
(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6WN­2W2 : 17 October 2014), Sam Scott in household of Willin Scott, Illinois, United States; citing p. 18, family 122, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 545,778.
  • Chris H. Baily, The Jehu Scott Family (Eustis, FL, Chris H. Baily), Files (Personal), Person 10 – William Hunt Scott. Bailey, Chris, “The Jehu Scott Family” accessed 7/16/16.
  • Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com –  accessed 04 May 2019), memorial page for Emily M. Hendricks Scott (22 Oct 1836–27 Oct 1878), Find A Grave Memorial no. 80527356, citing Hammond Cemetery, Sesser, Franklin County, Illinois, USA; Maintained by Gravedigger49 (contributor 47282320).
  • “Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940,” database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFKW-85D : 3 March 2016), Samuel V. Scott and Amanda J. Haley, 24 May 1879; citing Franklin, Illinois, United States, county offices, Illinois; FHL microfilm 1,005,307.
  • “Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940,” database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFKW-26N : 5 November 2017), Patience Marshall in an entry for Francis P. Scott and Florence E. Roberts, 24 Mar 1901; citing Franklin, Illinois, United States, county offices, Illinois; FHL microfilm 1,005,307.

Endnotes

[i] Internet: Wikipedia – St. Clair County, Illinois, Demographics – Historical Population Table. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clair_County,_Illinois#Demographics