DNA – Glennis’ Paternal Search – Part 14

Following Descendants of Nathan Smith & Belinda (Odell) Morgan – Samson Green Morgan

By Don Taylor

My half-sister Glennis is a DNA match on Ancestry.Com with several individuals who have common ancestors with Nathan Smith Morgan and his wife, Belinda [sometimes Malinda Odell. In the search to determine Glennis’ biological father, I am continuing to develop a tree of the descendants of Nathan and Belinda.

Descendants of Nathan and Belinda (Odell) Morgan I have examined:

  1. John Wesley and Oelia T. (Maxwell) Morgan.
  2. Francis Marion and Fannie (McGreggor) Morgan.
  3. Sanford/Sansom/Samson Morgan.[i]

3. Descendants of Samson Green and Marybell (Hartley) Morgan

#.#.# Child Notes/Comments Status
1. Elizabeth Leota Morgan Married John William Galloway 1 Known child.
1.1.   Mary Bertha Galloway
1.1.1       Mary Leota McClellan Married Clyde Bennett One child, Boy born 1931. Possible but Unlikely
1.1.2       Bertha E McClellan Married Thomas Gill No children until 1937.
1.1.3       Chester L. McClellan, Jr Single in 1940
2. Liddie Morgan Died at age 4

 

3.Descendants of Samson Green and Harriet A (McHenry) Morgan

#.#.# Child Notes/Comments Status
3. Elvira Jane Morgan Married Sheridan Hardman Four Children
3.1.    Clarence R Hardman Died in 1916.
3.2.    Bessie Levalda Hardman Married Calvin Ezekiel Braden Four Children
3.2.1.       Leota P Braden Married in 1942
3.2.2.       Boy[ii] Braden Born 1921 Not a Candidate
3.2.3       Boy Braden Born 1923 Not a Candidate
3.2.4       Boy Braden Born 1926 Possible but unlikely
3.3.    Earl S Hardman Married Osa Jane Dawson 1 child
3.3.1.       Velda Faye Hardman Born 1915 1 child
3.3.1.1          Girl[ii] Pratt Female Not Considered
3.3.2.       Girl Hardman Born 1919 Not Considered
3.3.3.       Boy Hardman Born 1921 Not a Candidate
3.3.4.       Girl Hardman Born 1925 Not Considered
3.3.6.       Girl Hardman Born 1927 Not Considered
3.3.7.       Osa Earline Hardman Died as infant.
3.4. Jessie D. Hardman Married Robert Lee Barker 1 Child
3.4.1. Gladys Geraldine Barker 1917 Not Considered.
4. John E. Morgan Died 1897, Single
5. Homer Martin Morgan Married Susan Nora Selman 2 children
5.1.    Arthur Edwin Morgan Married Josephine Frances Leroy No Children before 1940.
5.2.    Flossie Mae Morgan Married Byrd Russel Johnson 3 Children
5.2.1. Betty Jean Johnson Born 1926 Not Considered.
5.2.2. Margaret E Johnson Born 1930 Not Considered.
5.2.3. FNW Johnson Born 1936 Not Considered.
6. Flora Alice Morgan Married Perry Albert Deem 5 Children
6.1.    John Emery Deem Died 1920 at age 22
6.2.    Ethel Ann Deem Married Clemence Sylvester Schilling 8 Children
6.2.1.       FNW Schilling Born 1923 Not Considered
6.2.2.       Martha Ann Schilling Born 1925 Not Considered
6.2.3.       Mary A Schilling Born 1927 Not Considered
6.2.4.       Clarence F Schilling Born 1929-1930 Possible, but Unlikely
6.2.5.       Francis J Schilling Born 1931-1932 Possible, but Unlikely
6.2.6.       William G Schilling Born 1934-1935 Possible, but Unlikely
6.2.7.       FNW Schilling Born 1936 Not Considered
6.2.8.       FNW Schilling (Male) Born 1938-1939 Not a Candidate
6.3.    Samson Earl Deem Married Naomi Hemsworth 1922 5 Children
6.3.1.       Margaret Deem Born 1923 Not Considered
6.3.2.       Earl Deem Born 1924 Not a Candidate
6.3.3.       William J Deem Born 1925 Possible but Unlikely
6.3.4.       Betty Lou Deem Born 1927 Not Considered
6.3.5.       Robert Deem Born 1929 Possible but Unlikely
6.3.6       Alice Frances Deem Born 1933 Not Considered
6.3.7        Naretta Deem Born 1938 Not Considered
6.4.    Opal Justine Deem Married Austin Markel Cranston 1935 Not Considered
6.5.    Delbert Buel Deem Born 1914 Not a Candidate
7. Lura A Morgan Married Dexter P Bailey 1892. 4 Children
7.1    Arthur G Bailey Married Hazel Hendrick 1 child
7.1.2       Lura Jane Bailey Born 1918 Not Considered
7.2    Hazel C. Bailey Married David William O’Brien No apparent issue.
7.3    Willis Bailey Married Ethel ___ v. 1925 1 Child
7.3.1       Girl Bailey Born 1927 Not Considered
7.4    Mildred Bailey Married Ernest L. Barnes 3 children
7.4.1       Boy Barnes Born 1928 Possible but Unlikely
7.4.2       Boy Barnes Born 1930 Possible but Unlikely
7.4.3       Girl Barnes Born 1933 Not Considered

 There don’t appear to be any likely candidates from the descendants of Samson green Morgan. There were nine males that were “Possible but Unlikely.” All of the Descendants of Samson Green Morgan appear to have remained in the West Virginia and Ohio area. None seem to have moved until at least after World War II.

Follow-up

Further investigate the 9 “possible but unlikely” individuals if other candidates do not arise.

Note/– My Criteria:

  • “Candidates” are males born between 1925 and 1935.
  • “Not considered” are females who are unlikely to have had a male child between 1925 and 1935.
  • “Not a Candidate” are males born between 1915 and 1925 as being too young to have had a son between 1925 and 1935 and too old to be a candidate.
  • “Possible but unlikely” are males born between 1925 and 1935, but are not named Paul or Phil, which are the likely names of Glennis’ biological father, or otherwise don’t appear to fit the likely candidate who would have been in Minnesota or Michigan in 1953. I will revisit these possibilities later of this project fails to find a potential candidate.

Sources:

This is a quickly developed “notional” tree and does not have the indepth sourcing attached to the findings that I typically follow. I di have supporting documents regarding much of Samson Green Morgan and his descendants. All records used were found at the following sites:

  • Family Search
  • Ancestry
  • Find a Grave
  • Genealogy Bank

For specific sources, please contact me.

ENDNOTES

  • [i] I’m pretty well convinced that Sanford, Sansom, and Samson are the same person. I believe that Sanford and Sansom were errors by the individuals who wrote what they think they heard. In any event, I am using Samson unless I have a compelling reason to use something else.
  • [ii] I used “Boy” and “Girl” for living individuals born since 1918 because they are possibly living.

DNA Day – Glennis

Today was a DNA day. That is to say, I tried to take some time and go back through various DNA matches; today I looked at my half-sister Glennis’ Ancestry results.

On Ancestry DNA her closest match is, of course, me sharing 1977cM of DNA.  Next is newly discovered half-aunt, Aunt Phyllis (See OMG – Another Half-Sibling).

Her next closest match is D.W. I’m not sure who that is or how that person fits in, so I emailed her administrator.

Next is C.D. the daughter of Aunt Phyllis, a newly discovered half first cousin.

J.M. appears next on her list. I don’t know who that is either, but she is related to me as well as Glennis so we know it is on our mom’s side. I messaged her too.

2nd cousin T.L. is next on the list; she is a descendant of Cora Brown, my grandfather’s sister.

Next was R.B. He is a new match on Ancestry DNA, there is a blue ball next to his name. I did the “Shared Matches tab and found he was not a match to me or anyone else on my mother’s line. I thought, “Oh my,” and with another click I learned that he and Glennis share 271 centimorgans of DNA – Enough to be second cousins. R.B. is Glennis’ closest match on her paternal side. That’s something to get excited about, and I did – almost giddy in my excitement. Although he didn’t place himself on a tree, he did have a tree on Ancestry. Assuming that he was the home person, I learned found his great-grandparents were on my notional tree as well.

I’ve contacted R.B.; hopefully, he will respond quickly (He last logged into Ancestry on Feb 25th). In any event, I have a new area to focus my research on my Peterson Paternal Project – The descendants of John Huber (1872-1946) and his wife Viola Cline (1879-1953). I suspect they just might be Glennis’ great-grandparents.

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Review: Living DNA

I received my results from Living DNA. There was a problem with my first sample and they sent me a second kit. I bought my original kit when it was on sale last November. It cost $108.95. The good news is they provide results of Y-DNA, mtDNA, as well as atDNA. The results are easy to follow and the maps can be drilled down into showing interesting detail. In my case, I am 98% European, 83% Great Britain and Ireland, and 13% Central England, 12% North Yorkshire, 11% South England, Etc.

Chart showing modern populations sharing my DNA

 

Living DNA provided my mitochondrial DNA haplogroup of T2b and my paternal (Y-DNA) haplogroup of R-L21 and the subclade R-Z2961. If I hadn’t already known those results learning them would have been invaluable.

The bad news is that Living DNA doesn’t appear to have any connections to potential cousins or provide a way to compare your results with anyone else. However, downloading your results for importing into GEDMatch or other services is easy. Just select Download Raw Data, agree that you are aware of the impact such information can provide and that you take responsibility for the data once you download the raw data. Then you may download the results from the three tests. The atDNA test loaded into GEDMatch easily as a Generic Kit and the results were as I expected.

Sharing your results on Twitter and Facebook is easy, however, doing a nice report for printing isn’t an option.

I don’t recommend Living DNA for family historians who are looking to snare cousins that might have artifacts from their common ancestors. Also, the lack of a nice-quality printed report removes it from being a great “coffee table” service. However, if you want to learn your mtDNA and Y-DNA haplogroups and use other services for cousin connecting, then Living DNA might be for you.

Hopefully, they will improve the report printing soon.

Review – DNA Painter

Tech Tuesday
By Don Taylor

Photo of Don Taylor with cat Nasi.Last fall, Blaine Bettinger mentioned in his Facebook group, “Genetic Genealogy Tips & Techniques” an introduction video was available on YouTube for DNA Painter. I respect Blaine’s opinions, so I knew that I wanted to give it a try. It took a while for me to get to it and I’m glad I finally did. Wow, great program.

DNA Painter helps you understand exactly where your DNA came from. With it you can determine if a segment of your DNA you have may have come from your great grandmother on your maternal grandmother’s side or from another ancestor.  You can paint with common DNA information from GEDMatch, Family Finder (Family Tree DNA), or 23&Me. Sadly, Ancestry doesn’t provide DNA segment matching data, so it can’t be used. However, the raw data from Ancestry may be exported by the DNA owner and then imported into GEDMatch or Family Finder where you may export the data for use in DNA Painter.


The DNA Painter video was great. I only needed to watch it once and I was confident I understood the tool enough to use it for DNA painting. I was right; the tool is very easy to use.

I am fortunate because I have had my mother tested and I have her results. So, if my mother has a DNA Segment and I have it, I know it came from her. All the other DNA that I received from my biological father, who passed away before autosomal DNA testing became available.

I began doing the DNA painting, copying the data about matching segments of DNA from various cousins. When I looked at the matches from my half-aunt and myself, I could see exactly which DNA segments came from my maternal grandfather (and his ancestors). I compared with a known third cousin and saw which DNA came from our common second great-grandparents.

Image of Note: Chromosome 3 has a long DNA segment known to be from Hugh Eugene Roberts
Note: Chromosome 3 (top line) has a long DNA segment known to be from Hugh Eugene Roberts
Image of Chromosome 3 has two DNA segments (in pink) known to be from Asa Roberts and a one segment from an unknown Ancestor, not Asa.
Note: Chromosome 3 (top line) has two DNA segments (in pink) known to be from Asa Roberts and one segment from an unknown Ancestor, not Asa.

I could see where bits of DNA came from.  In another example, I received a nice 141cM chunk of DNA from my father on Chromosome 3. Based upon other DNA matches, of that fragment of DNA a 21cM piece of it and another 17cM piece of was inherited from Asa Roberts. He also had a sizeable 47cM chunk of DNA inherited from another ancestor that apparently was not Asa. I don’t know who it was yet, but additional samples should show its source. It was fun to do, but I couldn’t see a substantial genealogical reason for doing it. How could I use this tool?

Image of DNA Painter - AHW match on C13
DNA Painter shows three DNA segments match on C. 13 for Glennis.

Then, I thought about my half-sister Glennis, so I started a new profile and began painting her DNA. We share a common mother, so, once again, I was able to copy that information into her profile and have all of her maternal DNA. Then, I could focus entirely on her unknown paternal side.  I began finding any of her biological cousins that do not contain our mom’s DNA. That is when I started to see a pattern.  There were segments that were shared by a common ancestor of multiple individuals. That proved, to me, that these segments were from a common ancestor. Their trees indicated that they shared a known ancestor, so I know that Glennis shares either the same common ancestor or an ancestor of that individual. Furthermore, if the individual is more genetically distant than a second cousin, I know that the descendants below the person’s second great-grandparent cannot be a direct line. That can save me considerable research disproving a potential family line.

DNA Painter is a great tool that can help identify likely genetic ancestors and help identify unlikely descendant lines. I like it.

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Don’t give up communicating with that match

DNA – Roberts

FTDNA Chromosome Browser Results

In 2016, my number 3 match In Family Finder (Family Tree DNA) was a 2nd to a 4th cousin with whom I shared 100cM of DNA. We shared a couple big chunks on Chromosome 3; there was another nice match on chromosome 12, and a small piece on Chromosome 11. I emailed him in November 2016 and waited.

During the ensuing months, I found two more cousins with whom I shared DNA but I still wondered about that first one. I wondered about him and I emailed him again in May 2017 hoping to figure out how we were related.

I emailed him again mostly as a follow-up in November 2017. And wow. A response. A nice response with enough information to show exactly how we are related. I came to learn that he is the 2nd great-grandson of my 2nd great-grandfather, Asa Ellis Roberts. In other words, he is my half 3rd cousin (we have different great-grandmothers). Asa had 16 children, 12 with his first wife, Cynthia Minerva Toney and 4 with his second wife, Patience Anna Marshall. (My line follows Patience’s children.)

If you are working to fill in the descendants of your ancestors and to connect with distant cousins, it is great to have a first contact message (email) and then remember to follow-up every few months. Don’t be discouraged if you don’t receive a response. Just keep working at it and, hopefully, you will eventually receive the answer which will show a new line of cousins.

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