Trümpi – Surname Saturday

Surname Saturday

Name Origin

It seems there are too few instances of the surname Trümpi for anyone to know its meaning. Ancestry, Forebears, and Genealogy Bank, all have generic pages that indicate where surnames typically come from.

Geographical

There are only 158 people with the surname Trümpi in the world[i].  There are another 79, mostly in the United State that don’t use the umlaut. The greatest number of folks with the surname are people who spell it Trumpy, for which there are 497, mostly in the United States. There are another 217 that spell the name with the umlaut, Trümpy.

There are no Trümpi in the United States and only 15 people with the surname without the umlaut. The variation most common in the United States is Trumpy there are about 395 people with that surname in the United States.

Within the United States, the largest number of folks with the surname are 104 Trumpy’s in Wisconsin.

My Wife’s Direct McAllister Ancestors

Historical

1920

My wife’s great-grandmother, Bertha Barbara (Trumpi) Huber immigrated in 1903 in the care of her aunt and uncle. She settled in a Swiss Colony near Promrose, Dane County, Wisconsin. She married John Huber in 1905 and the family moved first to Alabama then to Michigan. So, by 1920, she was a Huber.

Of Bertha’s three brothers, only one, Ernst Lorrain Trumpi, appears to have immigrated to the United States.

So, it is my guess that many of the Trumpi’s in the United States and the Trümpi’s in the Canton of Glarus are related.

My wife’s known Trümpi relatives.

My records have identified 120 direct-line descendants of Bernhard Trümpi (the eldest).

Followup

Do a surname study of the Trumpi surname in the United States.

Sources:

Endnotes

[i] According to Forebears. https://forebears.io/surnames/trumpi

My Start of a Trumpi Surname Study

Census Sunday
Darling-Huber-Trumpi

In continuing my research on the Trumpi line I realized there weren’t too many Trumpi’s that came to the United States. So, I thought I’d broaden my understanding of the Trumpi family line in hopes that eventually I would discover a connection of these other Trumpi’s and my wife’s Trumpi line in Switzerland. Additionally, this process will broaden my tree allowing for better understanding of DNA Matches. First I looked at the Census Records.

Trumpi by the Censuses

1940 Census

The 1940 US Census has 19 individuals surnamed Trumpi listed, six of whom are Heads of the Households.

Head Born Lived 1940 Spouse Comments
Fred 1886, MD North Pelham, NY Eva (1891)
John 1862, Switz. Milford Twnsp, PA
Jacob 1860, Switz. Mount Vernon, NY Emma (1864) Ethel, GDau (1915)
Raymond 1910, NJ Philadelphia, PA Julia (1912)
Fred 1911, MN Mound Prairie, MN Sophia (1907) Dennis, Son (1937)
Marie, Dau. 1938
Pauline, Dau. (1939)
Raymond 1900, PA Egg Harbor, NJ Alice (1902) May, Dau. (1924)
Joan, Dau. (1927)
Raymond, Son (1931)
Fredrich, Father (1872)
Ellen Littlewood, 67, Aunt-in-law.
Bridget Dreenan, 65, Mother-in-Law.
Mary Foody, 59, Aunt

1930 Census

The 1930 Census had six individuals listed in two households.

Head of House. Born Lived 1930 Spouse Comments
Jacob 1860 Switz. Mount Vernon, NY Emma Ethel, GDau. 15
Frederick 1886 Switz. Mount Vernon, NY Eva Helen, Dau. 14

Jacob Trumpi – The other Trumpi family reported in the 1930 Census is Jacob was born in Switzerland about 1860. He also lived at 91 Beekman Avenue in Mount Vernon, Weschester, New York. Living with him is his wife Emma, age 66, and a granddaughter Ethel Trumpi, age 15.

Frederick Trumpi – Fredrick with his wife Eva Living with him is a daughter Helen Trumpi, age 14. (He also had a step-daughter Evelyn M. Cashin, age 15.) Fredrick’s father was born in Switzerland. They live at 91 Beekman Avenue in Mount Vernon, Westchester, New York.

Note: The Fred Trumpi born about 1911 and the Raymond Trumpi born about 1910, do not appear in the 1930 Census. Jacob and Fredrick (Fred) born about 1886 live at the same address.

1920 Census

The 1920 Census is a bonanza of Trumpi’s. There were 14 enumerated and four heads of households.

Head of House. Born Lived 1920 Spouse Comments
George 1871 Lithuania Brooklyn
Fred 1873 Penn. Philadelphia Ida V. F. Walter – 21 – Son
Raymond S. – 20 – Son
Fred 1870 Switz. Mound Prairie, MN Louise Louise – 24 – Dau.
Fredie – 9 – Son
Jacob 1861 Switz. Mount Vernon, NY Emma F. Frederick, 34, Son
Ethel, 5, GDaughter
Helen, 6 GDaughter

1910 Census

Thirteen Trumpi people enumerated and three heads of household and one employee.

Head Born Lived 1910 Spouse Comments
Fred 1870 Switz. Mound Prairie, MN Luisa M (1872) Sophia, Dau. (1895)
Bertha, Dau. (1896)
Louisa, Dau. (1896)
Frederick 1873 PA Philadelphia, PA Ida V ( Edward, Son (1897)
Frederick, Son (1900)
Raymond, Son (1901)
Joseph, Son (1910)
Frank 1879 Italy Hampton, PA Only has Boarders
Barbara 1893 Switz. Pittsburgh, PA Servant

1900 Census

Eleven Trumpi people enumerated and three heads of household and one employee and one inmate.

Head Born Lived 1900 Spouse Comments
Jacob Feb 1860, Switz. Mt Vernon, NY Emma Immigration 1860
Son, Frederick (1885)
Christ Oct 1878, PA Braddock twnsp, PA Lizzie Dau. Ann (1900)
Sis. Aggie (1893)
Thomas Mar 1842, Switz. Oyster Bay Twnsp, NY Mary Immigration 1871
Grandson, Louis Vogt.
John Aug 1863, Switz. Montague Twnsp, NJ Immigration 1872 – Servant to Westbrook Family.
Gabriel Jun 1832, Germany Delaware Twnsp, KS Immigration 1852 – Inmate at Military Home.

1880 Census

Ten Trumpi people enumerated and two heads of household and one “Other.”

Head Born Lived 1880 Spouse Comments
Frederick 1848, Switz New York, NY Louisa Dau. Rose (1877)
Dau. Kate (1879)
Sister Kate (1857)
Thomas 1842, Switz Brooklyn, NY Maria Dau. Maria (1866)
Son. John (1861)
Jacob 1839, Switz Westfall, PA Servant.

1870 Census

Seven Trumpi people enumerated and only one household. Although the roles and relationship between people isn’t given, it appears to be a standard family unit with Father, Wife, and five Children.

Head Born Lived 1870 Spouse Comments
Fred 1813, Switz Posey, IN Ozilla Daniel (1853) MO
Fred (1856) MO
Barbary (1858) IA
Etha (1861) IN
John (1865) IN

Trumpi’s in the Censuses – by the Person

 

Aggie Trumpi, b. Dec. 1893 in Pennsylvania. Lived in Braddock Township, PA in 1900.

Barbara Trumpi, b. 1893 in Switzerland. Lived in Pittsburgh, PA in 1910 (Servant).

Christ Trumpi, b. Oct 1878 in Pennsylvania. Lived in Braddock Township, PA in 1900.
Ann b. 1900

Frank Trumpi, b. 1879 in Italy. Lived in Hampton, PA.

Fred Trumpi, b. 1813 in Switzerland was living in Posey, IN in 1870 with his wife and five children. That family completely disappears in subsequent census records.

Frederick Trumpi, b. Mar 1848 in Switzerland, Lived in New York City, NY in 1880.
Rose. b. 1877
Kate. B. 1879

Fred Trumpi, b. 1870 in Switzerland. Lived in Mound Prairie, MN in 1910, 1920.

Sophia b. 1895
Bertha b. 1896
Louisa b. 1896
Fredie/Fred, b. 1911 in Minnesota. Lived in Mound Prairie, MN in 1940.

Frederick Trumpi, b. 1873 in Pennsylvania. Lived in Philadelphia in 1910, 1920.
Edward b. 1897
Frederick Walter, 1900
Raymond, (1901)
Joseph, (1910)

Gabriel Trumpi, b. 1832 in Germany. Immigrated 1852.
Lived in Delaware township, Kansas in 1900.

George Trumpi, b. 1871 Lithuania. Lived in Brooklyn, NY

Jacob Trumpi, b. 1839 in Switzerland Lived in Westfall, PA in 1880.

Jacob Trumpi, b. 1860/61 in Switzerland. Immigrated 1860

Lived in Mt. Vernon, NY in 1900, 1920
Lived in Mount Vernon, NY in 1940.
Frederick/Fred, . 1885/86 in Switzerland or Maryland.
Lived in Mt. Vernon, NY in 1900, 1910, 1930
Lived in North Pelham, NY in 1940.
Ethel, b. 1915
Helen, b. 1916

John Trumpi, b. 1863 in Switzerland. Immigrated 1872.
Lived in Montague Township, New Jersey in 1880
Lived in Milford Township, PA in 1940.

Kate Trumpi, b. 1857 in Switzerland. Lived in New York City, NY in 1880.

Raymond Trumpi, b. 1900 in Pennsylvania. Lived in Egg Harbor, NJ, in 1940.

Raymond Trumpi, b. 1910 in New Jersey.
Lived in Philadelphia, PA in 1940.

Thomas Trumpi, b. 1842 in Switzerland. Lived in Brooklyn, NY in 1880.
Lived in Oyster Bay Township, NY in 1900.
Maria. b. 1866
John. b 1851

Future Trumpi Activities

I am particularly interested in the Trumpi’s that were born in Switzerland. So, I will look closer at each of them. That includes:

  • Barbara Trumpi,          b. 1893.
  • Fred Trumpi,               b. 1870.
  • Kate Trumpi,               b. 1857.
  • John Trumpi,               b. 1863.
  • Jacob Trumpi,             b. 1860/61.
  • Frederick Trumpi,       b. Mar 1848
  • Thomas Trumpi,          b. 1842.
  • Jacob Trumpi,             b. 1839.
  • Fred Trumpi,               b. 1813.

I may take a look at the children of those individuals. Sometimes the birth and/or Marriage records indicate the birthplace of the individual’s parent. First on that group is Frederick/Fred, born in 1885/86. One of the Census records indicated he was born in Switzerland, although the other ones indicate he was born in Maryland.

There were three Trumpi’s that I not very interested in. Frank was born in Italy, Gabriel in Germany, and George in Lithuania. None of these appeared to have any connection to the Swiss Trumpi’s, so I’ll ignore them for now.

Ancestor Sketch – James Walter

Darling-Swayze-Walter
By Don Taylor

Image by Kate Honish from Pixabay

It is always difficult to follow a person’s records when their name is recorded differently over the years.  James’ surname was recorded as “Waters,” “Walter,” and “Walters” over the many years. I have settled on Walter because it appears to be the surname he was buried with. James was a Patriot, serving in a Virginia artillery detachment during the Revolutionary War.

Howell/Darling – Ancestor #102

List of Grandparents

James Walter (aka Walters, aka Water) (1752-1838)

James Walter was born on either 16 or 17 Feb 1752.[i]in the Province of Maryland (now state of Maryland). He was the first child of John Walter and Ann Parker. He had five siblings, namely: William, Rebecca Conyers, Richard, Lawrence, and James.

Military service

Image courtesy of the Kentucky Secretary of State.

James was a Sergeant in the Revolutionary War. It appears that he joined up about 1777 in Virginia. On 02 Apr 1782 he was assigned to an Artillery detachment commanded by Capt-Lt Lewis Booker. He was known as the “Forage Master.” After the war, he received a warrant for 400 acres of Bounty Land, in what would become Kentucky, for his Revolutionary War Service to Virginia.

In 1793, when he was 40, he married Margaret Ann Swan of Virginia.

James and Margaret Ann (Swan) Walter had six (known) children.

    1. Nancy Anne Walter was born in 1788.
    2. Elkina Walter was born in 1789. she died in 1852.
    3. Catherine Ann Dent Walter was born on 15 Jun 1794 in. She married David Swayze on 30 Jan 1817 in Fairfield County, Ohio. She died on 16 Apr 1868 in Kalamazoo, Michigan, at the residence of her daughter, Elizabeth.
    4. James C Walter was born in 1800; he died in 1874.
    5. Elizabeth Walter was born before 05 Jan 1804[ii].
    6. John Walter was also born before 05 Jan 1804ii.

In 1804, James Walter executed a Deed of Trust transferring his property in Kentucky to Elijah Pollard of Frederick, Virginia, USA

James Walter died on 10 May 18381 in Lancaster, Fairfield County, Ohio, USA. He was buried at the Old Methodist Cemetery. Later, he was reinterred at the City Burial Plot, Lancaster, Fairfield County, Ohio.

Continue reading “Ancestor Sketch – James Walter”

James Walter – Buried in Ohio

James Walter (1752-1838) – Revolutionary War Soldier was buried in Lancaster, Fairfield County, Ohio

Darling-Swayze-Walter
By Don Taylor

In my searches for information on my wife’s 4th great-grandfather, James Walker (1752-1838), I kept running into a source that seemed to be the source used in many other people’s trees but was not cited. Eventually, I determined the mystery source. It was, The Official Roster of the Soldiers of the American Revolution Buried in the State of Ohio. It was compiled under the Direction of Frank D. Henderson, The Adjutant General.  A copy of the book is available online at one of my favorite sites, Archive.Org.

Document Image

Roster of Revolutionary War Soldiers buried in Ohio – Page 385 – James Walter

Transcription

On page 385 is an entry for Walter, James, (Fairfield Co.). It reads:

WALTER, JAMES, (Fairfield Co.)

Sgt “Forage Master.” Br Maryland, 1759. Mar Margaret Ann Levan, of Maryland, after the Revolutionary war, date not known. Children : Nancy, mar Leevir ; Elkanah, mar Rachel Decker ; Catherine Ann Dent, mar David Levayzee , Eliz, mar Chas Stockard 1, James Gurley 2; James, mar Polly ___  John, mar Belinda Reese. D May 10, 1838, Lancaster, O. Bur Old Methodist Cem and City Burial Plot Lancaster, O. Cem converted into park, bodies moved to new Cem in Lancaster, marking on head stone obliterated and identification impossible. MI: “James Walter, died May 10, 1838, aged 80 years, 2 mo, 23 da.”_ Jan 4, 1804 received transfer of 400 acres in Ky for serv in Rev War. Deeded in Frederick Co, Va. His name appears on a muster roll of a detachment of artillery commanded by Capt Lt Booker, belonging to the 1st Regt, dated Camp near Bacon Bridge, Apr 2, 1782, covering the months of Jan, Feb and Mch, 1782, which shows that he enlisted for the war. Ref: Natl No 12581 James Lincoln (Capt) Mass. Old Northwest Genealogical Quarterly Vol 3, p 74. Letter fr War Dept signed “Lutz Wahl,, Brigadier Gen, Acting the Adj Gen, by E. W. M.” Fur infor War Dept The Adj Gen Office Washington.

Discussion

I know there are a few errors. Certainly “Margaret Ann Levan” is Margaret Ann Swan and “David Levayzee” is David Swayzee. I’ve seen handwriting where a capital “S” could look like an “Le,” so, I understand the possibility for errors of this type. Also, the birthdate is not consistent with other sources.

Conclusion

Although I know there are minor errors in the entry, I’m tentatively accepting the following as facts:

James Walter

  • Born:   1759 in Maryland [Inconsistent – Alternate]
  • AKA:    “Forage Master”
  • Military Service:          Was a Sergeant in the Revolutionary War.
  • Military Service:          Assigned to an Artillery detachment commanded by Capt Lt Booker, belonging to the 1st Regt, dated Camp near Bacon Bridge, Apr 2, 1782, covering the months of Jan, Feb and Mch, 1782.
  • Marriage:        Margaret Ann Levan [Swan] after April 19, 1783.
  • Children:
    • Nancy, married Leevir [possibly Sevir];
    • Elkanah, married Rachel Decker ;
    • Catherine Ann Dent, married David Levayzee [Swayzee],
    • Eliz, married Chas Stockard 1, James Gurley 2;
    • James, married Polly ___
    • John, married Belinda Reese.
  • Property: 1804 received transfer of 400 acres in Ky for serv in Rev War. Deed in Frederick Co, Va.
  • Died: May 10, 1838, Lancaster, O.
  • Buried: Old Methodist Cemetery – reinterred: City Burial Plot Lancaster, Ohio. Cemetery
  • Headstone obliterated.
  • Note: Margaret Ann Levan [Swan] was “of Maryland”

Future Actions

This record embodies my experiences that finding one record leads to a dozen other things to research. In this case, I want to do the following future actions:

  1. Assess the birth records for James Walter.
  2. Learn more about Captain Lt. Booker and the 1st
  3. Learn more about the Camp near Bacon Bridge.
  4. Research further his marriage date to Margaret Swan.
  5. Research his land in Kentucky.
  6. Review DAR Natl No 12581 James Lincoln (Capt) Mass. and determine how that record fits with James Walter.
  7. Review Old Northwest Genealogical Quarterly Vol 3, p 74. Letter fr War Dept signed “Lutz Wahl, Brigadier Gen, Acting the Adj Gen, by E. W. M.”

ThruLines – Darling Part 2 – Bernard & Bertha Trumpi

ThruLines Thursday
Darling-Huber-Trumpi/Koch
DNA

By Don Taylor

Photo of Don Taylor with cat Nasi.In Part 2 of my Darling ThruLinestm analysis, I’m looking closely at matches with wife’s maternal 2nd great-grandparents, Bernard[i] Trümpi (1844-1913) and Bertha (Koch) Trümpi (1862-1927).

ThruLinestm indicated that there are 3 (newly discovered) cousins who match Shirley through the Trümpi line.

J. S. Descended from Bebetta Trümpi

J. S. and Shirley share 15 cM of DNA on one chromosome, which is a very small amount.

ThruLinestm suggests that the connection is through great-aunt Babetta Trumpi. Babetta was the second of the seven children of Bernard and Bertha. Babetta also had another seven half-siblings from Bernard’s first marriage.  She was born 9 Oct 1888, emigrated to the United States Oct 1905, and married Wilhelm Fuchs on 16 Nov 1906 in Winnebago, Illinois. They had at least eight children, one of whom was Walter Fuchs. Walter died sometime before 2006.

Through the tree of J. S., I learned that Walter married Katherine Welty and had children, one of whom was J. S.’s grandparent.

With the suggested tree, J. S. would be a 2nd cousin 2x (2C2X) removed. Genetically, a 2C2X should share between 0 and 261 cM, which is in the expected range but is a very low amount. DNA Painter suggests a 7.5% probability for this relationship.

L. C. Descended from Freida A. Trumpi

L. C. and Shirley share 112 cM of DNA on 7 segments. Much more in keeping with what I would expect from a 2nd cousin.

ThruLinestm suggests that the connection is through great-aunt Frieda A Trümpi. Frieda was the fourth of the seven children of Bernard and Bertha. Freida also had another seven half-siblings from Bernard’s first marriage.  She was born 9 Aug 1895, emigrated to the United States in 1906, and married Adolph John Karch on 27 Feb 1913 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. They had at least five children, one of whom was Albert Adolph Karch (1913-1963). Walter died sometime before 2006. L. C. is one of Walter’s children.

Thus, the paper trail also suggests that L.C. and Shirley are 2nd Cousins. They share 112 cM of material across 7 segments, which fits within the range (46-515) expected for 2nd cousins, but at the low end (8.9% likelihood).

K.B. Descended from Freida A. Trumpi

K.B. and Shirley share 23 cM of DNA on 2 segments.

ThruLinestm suggests that the connection is also through great-aunt Frieda A Trümpi. I mentioned Frieda under L.C.’s relationship. Another of Frieda and Aldolph’s children was Elinor Frieda Karch (1914-1998). Elinor married John Patrick McCarthy and they had at least one child, Marcella Rae Whitmore (1935-1998).  Marcella is K.B.’s grandmother.

Thus, the paper trail also suggests that L.C and Shirley are 2C2R. They share 23 cM of material across 2 segments which fits within the range (0-261) expected for 2nd cousins, twice removed, but again, at the low end (8.3% likelihood).

Conclusion

I find it interesting that all of these ThruLinestm connections include much less DNA than would be expected. All within norms, but all in the bottom 10% for the paper relationship. That makes me wonder if there might be some event that would reduce the amount of DNA shared significantly. This might be a good candidate for chromosome mapping. I have a “gut feeling” that I have something wrong and that Bernard had two wives name Bertha.[ii] If so, that Babetta and Freida’s descendants had less shared DNA than expected would make sense.

Finally, if you are a descendant of Bernard Trümpi (1844-1913) or Bertha (Koch) Trümpi (1862-1927), please consider testing with Ancestry DNA; it is an excellent genealogical resource, which may help you broaden your tree.

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