ThruLines – William Henry Brown – Part 4

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Brown
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By Don Taylor

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In Part 4 of my ThruLinestm analysis of my 2nd great-grandfather, William Henry Brown, I’m looking closely at the matches descended from Edward Waberton Brown. Ed was born in Dakota Territory in 1884 shortly after his parents moved from Saline, Michigan to the Dakota Territory. North Dakota became a state five years later, in 1889. Edward married Dertha Merkel on 3 November 1901. The two had 13 (or 14) children. Five of those children have descendants that have tested with Ancestry. I was surprised to learn that all five were females. Three of the individuals are 2nd cousins once removed (105, 97, & 70 cM shared), one is a 3rd cousin (37 cM shared), and one is a 3rd cousin once removed (18 cM shared). All five share an amount of DNA with me that I would expect based upon the relationship.[i]

Cousin via Lenora B. Brown

“CJ” has minimal tree on Ancestry. It does provide his/her parents names and his or her maternal grandmother’s name which links him to Edward Warberton Brown. There were no new facts regarding “CJ’s” ancestors nor sources for the facts held. As such, I was only able to add him to my list of cousins (with a note of the amount of DNA we share).

Cousin via Edna Winnifred Brown

“JC” has a very minimal tree on Ancestry. It does provide his/her parents names and his maternal grandfather’s name. There were no sources for any of his/her facts. As such, I was only able to add him to my list of cousins.

Cousin via Virginia M. Brown

“BP” has a nice tree that clearly connected to Virginia Marion Brown to Edward Waberton Brown, and to Henry William Brown. Thanks to the tree of “BP” I was able to identify three new cousins, including “BP.”

Cousin via Ada Brown

“GH” is a 3rd cousin, with whom I share 37 cM across 4 segments, is a double cousin.  We share William Henry and Marion (Sanford) Brown; we also share Enoch and Minerva Ann (Tolliver) Mannin (my 2nd great-grandparents). These lines are not related to each other, but many of their descendants are related to both. “GH” was the only cousin I was able to add to my tree.

Cousin via Emma Cecelia Brown

“AD” is a 3rd cousin, once removed, with whom I share 18 cM on one segment of DNA. I had much of this person’s tree already as I had researched some of this line previously. It is another case where two brothers (Harry and Floyd) married two sisters (Emma and Ruth Brown) and I had reviewed Floyd and Ruth previously. I was able to follow this line down to “AD” and add 12 new cousins to my tree, including “AD.”

Conclusion

If you are a descendant of Edward Warberton Brown (ca. 1884-1965) please consider testing with Ancestry DNA; it is an excellent genealogical resource and can help you broaden your tree too. I’d love to learn how we are related.

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ThruLines – William Henry Brown – Part 3

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Brown
DNA

In this look at my ThruLinestm results, I’m looking closer at matches, who I have in common with my great-great-grandparents’, William Henry & Marion (Sanford) Brown’s son, Clyde Hewett Brown. Clyde was born in April 1877 in Michigan, he married Phoebe Jane Manning in 1898 and they had two children. He died sometime before 1903. Clyde was the brother of my great-grandfather, Arthur, and Phoebe was the sister of my great-grandmother, Mary. So, this is a case where two brothers married two sisters.

Clyde and Phoebe had two children. Estella May Brown and Henry L. Brown. Estella married Zachariah Ariah Barnett and they had six children. Three of those children have descendants that have tested with Ancestry and have connected themselves to an Ancestry Tree—Mildred, Hazel, and Phoebe.

Analysis

The trees of each of these individuals are consistent with I have from my own sources. As such, all three appear to be third cousins, one twice removed and two once removed.

Mildred Merie Barnett (1917-2003) – Identical to my records.
TW[i] is a 3rd cousin, once removed, who shares 37 cM on two segments. My records already had her, her parents, and her grandparents, from another source. Looking at TW’s tree I found nothing new, however, the shared DNA confirms the relationship.

Hazel Idella Barnett (1922-2001) – Identical to my records.
JH is a 3rd cousin, twice removed, who shares 29 cM on three segments. Additionally, I have JH’s grandfather’s information. I don’t know who JH’s father is, but I can add him as a Living Unknown to my tree and then JH as a DNA Match.

Phebe E Barnet (____-____) – Similar to my Phoebe Elizabeth Barnett (1933-2007)
LI is a 3rd cousin, once removed, with whom I share 56 cM on 4 segments. LI has the same name for her grandmother, but has no new information regarding Phoebe nor her descendants. There is no way to determine who which of the five children I know about for Phoebe, so I don’t know how this match connects exactly. I’ve messaged LI to ask about which of the children of Phoebe is LI’s mother.

Conclusion

Thanks to ThruLines, I’ve been able to add 2 new third cousins, which broadens my tree.

Afterword

If you are a descendant of Clifford Gerome Brown, please consider testing with Ancestry DNA; it is an excellent genealogical resource and can help you broaden your tree too. If you have tested with Ancestry, but haven’t linked yourself to an Ancestry tree, please do so. I’d love to learn how we are related.

All of my ThruLines posts are listed under the ThruLines Thursday category. Continue reading “ThruLines – William Henry Brown – Part 3”

ThruLines – William Henry Brown – Part 2

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Brown
DNA

In this look at my ThruLinestm results, I’m looking closer at matches, who I have in common with my great-great-grandparents’, William Henry & Marion (Sanford) Brown’s son, Clifford Gerome Brown. Clifford was born about 1873 in Michigan, he married Louella Lillian Bean in 1894 and they had eight children. He died in 1958 in Eugene Oregon.

Three of Clifford’s children have descendants that have tested with Ancestry and have connected themselves to an Ancestry Tree—Harriet, Arthur, and Delilah.

Analysis

Harriet Irene Brown (1896-1981) – 3 matches.

“LP[i]” is a 3rd cousin who shares 27 cM of DNA across 3 segments. I have been in contact with “LP” previously.

“QP” and “AP” are descendants of a previously unknown son of Harriet. They are father & son and both share 36 cM of DNA across 3 segments with me.

Arthur A. Brown (1902-1978) – 2 matches.


“JB1” is a grandson of Arthur A. Brown and a here-to-fore unknown 3rd cousin. I had his father in my records but not him. He and I share 124 cM of DNA across 5 segments, quite a bit for 3rd cousins.

“JB2” is a great-granddaughter of Arthur A. Brown. I had her father’s basic information before and was able to add “JB2” to my tree. She and I share only 16 cM of DNA across 2 segments, just a little less than I would expect of a 3rd cousin, once removed.

Delilah Pearl Brown (1910-1995) – 2 matches.

“MR” is a granddaughter of Delilah Pearl Brown, thus we are 3rd cousins. We share 19 cM of DNA on 2 segments. She has 15 sources for her information on Clifford G. Brown, several of which I did not have. So, I have added her sources as hints of documents for me to look at carefully and incorporate as appropriate.

“AG” is another granddaughter of Delilah Pearl Brown, thus another 3rd cousin. We share 30 cM of DNA on 2 segments. A review of her on-line tree did not reveal any new information except for “AG”s name.

Conclusion

Thanks to ThruLines, I’ve been able to add 8 new second and third cousins, which broadened my tree. I’ve also learned many new, trusted, facts about my ancestors’ lives. Finally, I have received 14 source hints to review, that will add texture to my understanding of the Brown line. That makes for a good day.

Afterword

If you are a descendant of Clifford Gerome Brown, please consider testing with Ancestry DNA; it is an excellent genealogical resource and can help you broaden your tree too. If you have tested with Ancestry, but haven’t linked yourself to an Ancestry tree, please do so. I’d love to learn how we are related.

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[i] Note: Anyone who is living or is presumed to be living has their name either omitted or reduced to initials.  If you believe you are the person suggested and would like me to use your full name, let me know and I’ll update the article.

ThruLines – William Henry Brown – Part 1

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Brown
DNA

In Part 7 of my ThruLinestm analysis, I’m looking closely at matches with my 2nd great-grandfather, William Henry Brown (c. 1843- c. 1888). The first group of matches included 12 matches descended from Arthur Durwood Brown. I looked at those matches just a few months ago in Part 2 of this series. However, as I have learned how to use ThruLines better, I feel it is important to revisit them.

The 12 Children of Arthur Durwood & Mary Elizabeth (Manning) Brown

Clyde Leroy Brown (1894-1971) – No DNA Matches.

Clyde Leroy Brown – Married twice – had seven children (that I know of).

Victoria C. Brown (1896-1998) – One Known Match

I confirmed the one descendant of Victoria C Brown who has tested with Ancestry DNA and who has a tree on Ancestry previously.

Clarence Arthur Brown (1897-1988) – No DNA Matches.

Clarence Arthur Brown – Married twice – had four children (that I know of).

Martin Brown (1900-1900) – Died as an infant.

Cora Elsie Brown (1901-1986) – No DNA Matches.

Cora Elsie (Brown) Seaborn Petersen – Married twice – had four children (that I know of).

Richard Earl Brown (1903-1990) – Four DNA Matches

The four matches descended from my grandfather Richard Earl Brown. I either manage or am in regular contact then.

Dorothy Brown (c. 1906-1908) – Died as a young child.

Edward Lewis Brown (1908-1998) – One DNA Match.

Next is a descendant of Edward Lewis Brown. After contacting “TB,” I have determined that “TB” is a 2nd cousin once removed.

Arthur Eugene Brown (1912-1996) – Two DNA Matches.


Next, are two descendants of Arthur Eugene Brown. The first one, “J.B.,” and I have been in contact previously.

The second match reminds me that Ancestry DNA ThruLines does get it wrong sometimes. “JO,” according to Ancestry, is a 2nd cousin with whom I share 20 cM of DNA. That is far below the range expected of 2nd cousins (should be 46 to 515 cM). His online Ancestry tree only has his father’s name and doesn’t connect with anyone I have in my tree. So, I’ve emailed him to see if he has a tree elsewhere. Followup!

Charles William Brown (1914-1990) – No DNA Matches

Charles William Brown – Married twice – had six children (that I know of).

Delores Sarah Brown (1917-2011) – Three DNA Matches

I have two second cousins and one second cousin once removed that descend from Delores Sarah Brown. The three are each descended from a different “Larson” girl.

“TB” and I share 180 cM across 12 Segments. I have been in contact with him, however, not for several years.

“CL” is descended a great-grandchild of Deloris. We share only 25 mM of DNA. That is lower than typical but still within the range of 2nd cousins once removed. I have messaged him on Ancestry twice earlier this year and have not received a response. He appears not to have logged into Ancestry since January 2018 (over a year ago). Followup!

“CB” and I share 147 cM over nine segments. CB and I share trees and are friends on FaceBook.

Nettie M V Brown

Finally, I have two 2nd cousins descended from Nettie Brown. I have been in contact with “BB” and “NB” through both email and Facebook.

Conclusion

I was astonished to learn that of the ten children of Arthur and Mary Brown who lived to adulthood, I only had DNA Matches on Ancestry with six of them. If you are a descendant of Clyde, Cora, Clarence, or Charles and have not tested with Ancestry DNA, I encourage you to do so. It will be great to see you added to the tree. Also, if you have tested with Ancestry DNA and haven’t linked you and your DNA to a place on a tree, please do so. It will help us better understand this pioneer family’s descendants. Although Arthur died long before I was born, I remember Great-grandma Brown quite well from the dozen or so visits we had in Motley.

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ThruLines – Part 7 – Nimrod Lister

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In Part 7 of my ThruLinestm analysis, I’m looking closely at matches with my 2nd great-grandparents, Nimrod Lister and Malinda Evans. To the best of my knowledge, Nimrod and Malinda had 9 children together.  ThruLinestm indicated that descendants of two of Nimrod and Malinda’s children have tested with Ancestry DNA and have trees on Ancestry. First Marada Alice Lister, my great-grandmother. I looked at those descendants in my initial ThruLinestm posting. The other child with descendants in ThruLines is William L. Lister and there are six DNA Matches among those individuals.

My records indicated that William Lemuel and Laura May (Robertson) Lister had 12 children. I know that two of the twelve died very young. I have names for the other 10 and birth and death years for four of them. Three of those 10 appear to have descendants in ThruLines.

Jesse Carl Lister (1897-1959) – The oldest child. I know nothing of his wife or children.  ThruLinestm indicates there four DNA matches, all through his daughter Martha Sue Lister (1927-1982).  Three of them would be third cousins and one a third cousin, once removed.  According to DNAPainter, I should expect a third cousin to share between 0 and 217cM of DNA with an average of 74.

?G, JG, KG, share 23, 15, & 17cM respectively and the 3C1R shares 35cM with me, so the DNA Shared is within the expected range. Information regarding Martha Sue Lister is well documented and well sources, so I accept “?G’s” entries for her mother, aunts, uncles, and siblings and have incorporated them into my tree for 8 new cousins added.

Alta Juanita Lister (1910-1959) – The seventh child of William and Laura Lister. ThruLines indicates there is one DNA match via Alta. “EP” would be another 3rd cousin and shares 70cM of DNA with me—a bit more than the expected amount.

My records indicated that Alta was born c. 1910, married an “unknown” Perry and died c. 1959.

Cousin EP’s agrees with my data regarding Alta and provides exact dates of birth, marriage, and death. It is documented with 11 sources, so I feel comfortable accepting EP’s info regarding his parents and grandmother, Alta. So, I was able to add 7 more cousins (primarily aunts, uncles, and siblings of EP) to my tree thanks to my DNA Match with EP and ThruLines.

Mary Gertrude Lister (____ – ____ )—the third child of William & Laura Lister. I did not have her birthdate but I did believe her husband’s surname was Maier.  Ancestry is indicating that CK and I are 3rd cousins 2x removed, sharing45 cM of DNA across 3 segments. That is slightly above the average of 35 cM expected and well within the range of 0-116 that is expected.

CK does not have a viable tree to evaluate. The pedigree suggested by Ancestry indicates that Mary Gertrude Lister married four times, Ralph Dewey Miller, Rexford Vance, Valentine E. Maier, and “Trego.” Because of a lack of documentation linking CK and Mary Gertrude Lister, I am uncomfortable accepting the Ancestry proposed relationship. As such, I will contact CK and see if he has a tree someplace else.

Conclusion

It was a good morning. I was able to add 15 new cousins to my three that I feel comfortable are related.

If you are a descendant of Nimrod and Malinda (Evans) Lister. please consider testing with Ancestry DNA; it is an excellent genealogical resource and can help you broaden your tree too. I’d love to learn how we are related.

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