We’re Related – My Possible Relatives – John Kerry, Luke Bryan, Carrie Fisher

 

Famous Friday
by Don Taylor

Photo of Don Taylor with cat Nasi.My second look at possible relatives using “We’re Related.”

I must have received an upgrade recently as the program wanted me to reconnect with all of my Facebook friends. I was not amused that I could not bypass the requirement. I really don’t want “We’re Related” sending messages to all of my friends asking them to install “We’re Related” on their devices. My grandkids don’t need messages like that from me.  Nor do many of my other friends.  Luckily, it is possible to uncheck friends from the invites. It is a pain to have to do that to a hundred or more individuals, but I was able to do so and launch the application again. The first three potential ancestors shown were John Kerry, Luck Bryan, and Carrie Fisher.

John Kerry

John Kerry is identified as a possible seventh cousin, four times removed on my Brown line.

  • Richard Earl Brown
  • Arthur Durwood Brown
  • Marian Sanford
  • Mary Electa Parsons
  • Deborah Buel Maben
  • Electra Rowley
  • Wicks Weeks Rowley
    • Hannah Phelps – Unknown to me. Needs further research.
    • Nathaniel Phelps 
    • Nathaniel Phelps
    • Timothy Phelps – Supposed Common Ancestor.

I do not know who Wicks Weeks Rowley’s mother was. I believe his father was Nathan Rowley, but have no clue regarding his mother. Definitely, this is an area for further research. My relationship with John Kerry is possible.

Luke Bryan (Thomas Luther Bryan)

I’ll admit it, when I saw his name I said, “Who?” I learned he is a country music musician and composer. Then I switched to a genealogical context and thought, Bryan, I have Bryan’s in my family tree, maybe this will be a quick positive match.  No such luck.

Luke Bryan is potentially a sixth cousin, twice removed, through

  • Hugh Eugene Roberts
  • Bert Allen Roberts
  • Hugh Ellis Roberts
  • Asa Ellis Roberts
  • Elizabeth Blackwell
    • David Blackwell – Unknown to me. Needs further research.
    • Samuel Blackwell – Supposed Common Ancestor.

I don’t know Elizabeth Blackwell’s parents nor grandparents, but with only two unknown ancestors involved, this is probably the closest to verification famous person I’ve encounter so far. Cousins with Luke Bryan is likely.

Carrie Fisher

The third famous individual I’m looking at this week is the late Carrie Fisher, a potential eighth cousin, twice removed. “We’re Related” say we are related through Anthony Steptoe on the following tree:

  • Hugh Eugene Roberts
  • Bert Allen Roberts
  • Hugh Ellis Roberts
  • Asa Ellis Roberts
  • Elizabeth Blackwell
    • David Blackwell – Unknown to me. Needs further research.
    • Elizabeth Steptoe
    • John Steptoe
    • Anthony Steptoe – Supposed Common Ancestor.

With two individuals whose possible relationship to me stops at Elizabeth Blackwell, it makes me want to investigate that ancestor more fully, next. In the meantime, it is likely I’m related to Princess Leia, umm, I mean Carrie Fisher.

Blaine Bettinger

Finally, among my Facebook friends, “We’re Related” suggests that I’m related to Blaine Bettinger and that we are ninth cousins along my Brown Line. Blaine is a professional genealogist who specializes in DNA. His blog, The Genetic Genealogist is one of my favorite blogs to follow. He is the author of several Genetic Genealogy books. I met Blaine at the Maine Genealogical Society Spring DNA Workshop last April and was lucky enough to share a table with him and get to know him a little bit.

  • Richard Earl Brown
  • Arthur Durwood Brown
  • Marian Sanford
  • Mary Electa Parsons
  • Chester Parsons
  • John Parsons
  • John Parsons
    • Abigail Smith
    • Jonathan Smith

So, it appears we are very close, only two ancestors away from finding a common ancestor (CA).  I just need to find out who the parents and grandparents of John Parsons (1736-1821) are. In the meantime, it is likely that Blaine and I are related.

Updated chart of Relationships to Famous People

Famous Person Relationship* To CA Comments
Luke Bryan Possible 2 Research Ancestors of Elizabeth Blackwell
Blaine Bettinger Possible 2 Research Ancestors of John Parsons
John Kerry Possible 4 Research Ancestors of Wicks Weeks Rowley
Carrie Fisher Possible 4 Research Ancestors of Elizabeth Blackwell
Walt Disney Possible 7 Research Ancestors of Mercy Eliza Taft
Stephen King Unlikely Not through Max Fisher
Randy Seaver Unlikely Not through Henry Mack Brown
Britney Spears Unlikely Not through Sarah J. Gavin

“We’re Related” is fun to look at possibilities. It makes me think about key relationships in my tree and has the potential of providing clues into further research.  I wonder if Ancestry has improved its algorithms.  None of the matches this time were unlikely or impossible.

In my normal research process of my Roberts line, Elizabeth Blackwell is sixth ancestor on my list to research in depth. So, I should get one generation closer on that line in the next few months. Researching her will also bring me one step closer to knowing if I’m related to Carrie Fisher as well.

John Parsons, Sr., is my ancestor #408. I have written about my 3rd great-grandmother, Mary E. Parsons previously, but I still need to document his father Chester Parsons, and his father, John Parsons, Jr., before researching John Parsons, Sr., in depth.


*Relationship Table

Unlikely = There is something in the family tree going up to the common ancestor that I disagree with.  There might be another path to a common ancestor; however, according to my research, the path “We’re Related” is suggesting is not possible.

Possible = “We’re Related” has added additional ancestors to my tree to reach a potential common ancestor.  I need to do more research to agree with the Common Ancestor.

Probable = “We’re Related” indicates a common ancestor that I agree is an ancestor of mine. I need to research the descendants of that ancestor to assure the connection.

Certain = Well as certain as you can get in Genealogy. “We’re Related” indicates a pathway up to a common ancestor and down to the famous person that I am in agreement with.

Ancestor Biography – Martha Angeline Libby (1863-1938)

Whitten Project
Whitten/Libby Line

By Don Taylor

Photo of Don Taylor with cat Nasi.Ever since I started volunteering at the Scarborough Historical Society I’ve been hearing stories that all the Libby’s in Maine are descended from one person – John Libby. According to several accounts, John Libby settled in Scarborough about 1630 and was one of the earliest settlers.  Naturally, I was excited when I learned that my sister-in-law’s great-grandmother was a Libby.  Would I be able to connect her Libby ancestor into the long line of famous Maine Libby’s?

Whitten Project – Ancestor #9

List of Grandparents

  • Grandfather: Herbert Winfield Whitten
  • 1st Great-grandmother: Martha Angeline Libby
  • 2nd Great-grandfather: Charles G. Libby

Martha Angeline Libby (1863-1938)

Martha Angeline Libby[i] was born in March of 1863[ii], in Limerick, York County, Maine. She was probably the third child of Charles G. and Jane H. Libby.

Childhood

The 1870 Census is key in understanding her childhood. The census shows her father is a farm laborer and her mother is keeping house.  Also, living with them is Marietta, a 13-year-old girl who is working in the woolen mill and is also attending school. The 1870 Census does not include relationships, but I’m assuming she is an older sister unless I learn otherwise.  Also, is her older sister Harriett, who likewise is attending school. Seven-year-old Martha doesn’t appear to have begun school at that time.[iii]

The 1880 Census finds the 17-year-old Martha still at home in Limerick with her parents and her sister Hattie (Harriett). Her father is still a farm laborer.[iv]

Marriage

In 1882, Martha married Daniel Winfield Whitten[v]. And the family stays in Limerick and they begin to have children.

Adulthood

  • Life map of Martha Libby Whitten
    Martha Libby Whitten lived her entire life in York County, Maine

    Herbert Winfield Whitten was born on 3 September 1883 in Limerick.[vi]

  • Charles Libby Whitten was born in January 1886 in Limerick.[vii]
  • Muriel Arvella Whitten was born 7 Sep 1890 in Limerick.[viii]

The 1900 Census indicates that Martha had had three children and all three were alive, she and Herbert had been married for 18 years, and were then living about 15 miles south in Shapleigh, ME.

  • Newsen Whitten was born about 1901
  • Leland W. Whitten was born about 1904.

The 1910 Census indicates that Martha had had five children and all five were alive. The couple had moved to Kennebunkport and lived on Kennebunk Road. All the kids were living with them and were either working or attending school.[ix]

The 1920 Census shows Daniel and Martha Angeline “Angie” living on Portland Road in Kennebunk[x].  Herbert and Charles had moved on, so Muriel, Newsen, and Leland were the only children remaining at home.

The 1930 Census shows Daniel and Martha still on Portland Road in Kennebunk. Their daughter, Muriel, had moved in with her husband John Hayes.

Death

Marker of Daniel & Martha A. Whitten
Marker – Daniel & Martha A Whitten
Photo by “Airborne Steve” via Find a Grave.

Martha Angeline (Libby) Whitten died in 1938.[xi] She was survived by her husband, Daniel Winfield Whitten and at least four, if not all five, of her children. She is buried in Highland Grove cemetery in North Shapleigh, York County, Maine.

Libby Family Search

I then just had to look at The Libby Family in America 1602-1881 by Charles T Libby. Would I find Martha Angeline Libby.  Yes! She was listed. I now had an entry point into THE Libby family for Martha.  The book shows, on page 399, Martha Angeel Libby born on 23 March 1863 in Limerick, whose parents are Charles Gardner Libby and Jane H. Warren. It also shows an older sister, Hattie. Definitely, the right person.

Based upon The Libby Family in America 1602-1881, we learned that Charles’s father was William Libby, born in Limerick, Me., 21 June 1811; married, 28 Nov. 1830, Martha Libby.

Whose father was Joseph Libby, born in that part of Kittery, Me., which is now Eliot, 13 May 1767; married, 1795, Sarah Staples, daughter of Samuel and Sarah (Mendum) Staples of Scarborough.

Libby Line followed

Whose father was Azariah Libby, born 1740, in Kittery, now Eliot; Married Dec. 1762, Elizabeth Paul.

Whose father was Matthew Libby, born probably during his father’s stay in Portsmouth, 1690-1700; married 3 Sept. 1730, Mary Nason.

Whose father was Matthew Libby, born in Scarborough, in the year 1663 ; married Elizabeth Brown, daughter of Andew Brown, one of the principal inhabitants of Black Point.

Whose father was John Libby – the Immigrant (1602-1682) and the 8th great-grandfather of my sister-in-law. How fun is that.

UPDATED List of Grandparents

  • Grandfather: Herbert Winfield Whitten
  • 1st Great-grandmother: Martha Angeline Libby
  • 2nd Great-grandfather: Charles G. Libby
  • 3rd Great-grandfather:  William Libby
  • 4th Great-grandfather:  Joseph Libby
  • 5th Great-grandfather: Azariah Libby
  • 6th Great-grandfather: Matthew Libby
  • 7th Great-grandfather: Matthew Libby
  • 8th Great-grandfather: John Libby

Endnotes

[i] Martha Angeline Libby is identified as Martha in the 1880 and 1910 Censuses and as Angie M. in the 1900 and 1920 Censuses. Overall, Martha is used more frequently than Angie and is the name on her grave marker, so I prefer Martha in my use.

[ii] 1900 Census (FS), Danel [Daniel] W. Whitten – Shapleigh Town, York County, Maine. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMG4-D6W.

[iii] 1870 Census, 1870 Census – Charles Libby – Limerick, Maine. http://search.ancestry.com/search/collections/1870usfedcen/33125883/printer-friendly.

[iv] 1880 Census (A), Charles G. Libby – Limerick, York, Maine – Page 27, ED 197. http://search.ancestry.com/search/collections/1880usfedcen/16254166/printer-friendly.

[v] 1900 Census (FS), Danel [Daniel] W. Whitten – Shapleigh Town, York County, Maine. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMG4-D6W.

[vi] Maine Vital Records, 1670-1921, Family Search, Herbert Winfield Whitten, 1883. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2HKQ-Y3Y.

[vii] Daniel W Whitten – Kennebunk Town, York County, Maine.

[viii] Ibid.

[ix] 1910 Census (FS) (NARA), Family Search, Daniel W Whitney [Whitten] Kennebunkport, York County, Maine.

[x] 1920 Census (FS), Daniel W Whitten – Kennebunk, York, Maine. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MF8W-K7Y.

[xi] Maine, Faylene Hutton Cemetery Collection, ca. 1780-1990, Family Search, Maine, Faylene Hutton Cemetery Collection, ca. 1780-1990 – Daniel W Whitten. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKM1-WJ33  : United States, Maine State Library, Augusta; FHL microfilm 1,787,567.

Ancestor Biography – Amanda Jane Haley (1861-1889)

Roberts-Brown-2017 Research
Roberts-Scott-Haley Line

By Don Taylor

Photo of Don Taylor with cat Nasi.

One of the reasons I went back to Family Tree Maker for Mac 3 is the way it handles and sources multiple names for individuals. FTMM3 allows multiple names and allows applying different sources to each name.  I find this feature important when an individual’s name is unclear and I want to track where I got each specific name. Rather than an alias or a nickname, I use multiple names as a means to help determine which name is the actual correct name. I want to understand the various potential names and the sources for them until I can decide which name is correct for the individual and if the other names are aliases, nicknames, or mistakes. Such is the case for the father of Amanda Jane Haley whose father I accept as A. J. Haley. The “A.” probably stands for Andrew but it might be Adrico. I will need to do more research to be certain. Such is the way of genealogical research. I’ll take the safe way and say her father was A. H. Haley. I’ll research and sort out his name in a subsequent biography project when I explore his life more.

List of Grandparents

  • 4          Grandfather: Bert Allen Roberts
  • 9          1st Great-grandmother: Clora Dell Scott
  • 19       2nd Great-grandmother: Amanda Jane Haley
  • 38       3rd Great-grandfather: A. J. Haley

Ancestor #19 – Amanda Jane Haley (1861-1889)

Birth

Drawing of Amanda Jane (Haley) Scott
Amanda Jane Haley Scott
From the Chris H. Bailey family photo collection.

Amanda Jane Haley was born in Tennessee (probably Coffee County) to A. J. and Martha Malinda (Montgomery) Haley. The date of her birth is somewhat confusing.

The 1870 Census indicates she was 10 years old, suggesting a birth between 2 June 1859 and 1 June 1860.

Her marriage in May of 1879 at the age of 19 also suggests that she was born in 1859 or 1860.

The 1880 census, suggests she was born in March of 1859 by indicating her age as 19 and 2/12.

So, pretty much everything I’ve found suggests her birth to be in 1859 or 1860, except for the 1860 Census.  In 1860, her parents were in Coffee County, Tennessee, and the Census record there shows her older sister Mary (May) in the household but not Amanda Jane. If she were born in 1859 or 1860 before the census was taken, I would expect to see her in the record. I do not, so I believe she was born later. Another researcher, whose research I respect, indicates her birthday as being in April, 1861. So, I’m going to accept that date for now and see if I can find out his source.

Childhood

Amanda had a sister, Mary F who was two to three years older. She also had a younger sister, Serena who was about six years younger.  She would have been a young child during the Civil War.  Sometime between her birth (in 1861) and 1867, the family moved from Tennessee to Franklin County, Illinois.

The 1870 Census finds 10-year-old Amanda living with her parents and an older sister, Mary, in Township 5S, Franklin County, TN.[1]

Her sister Mary married Theodore Edward L. Curry on 26 February 1878 in Franklin County, Illinois.

Marriage

Amanda married Samuel Vaden Scott on 24 May 1879 in Goode Township, Franklin County, Illinois.[2] Samuel was 19 and Amanda was, most likely, 18-years-old.

Adulthood

In December 1879, the first of their four children, Clara Maybelle Scott, was born.[3]

The 1880 Census found the Scott family living in Barren Township, Franklin County, Illinois.[4]

Clora Dell Scott was born on 6 February 1883 in Goode Township and Laura Wells Scott was born on 27 July 1888 In McGlasson.[5] A fourth, unnamed, child was born and died as an infant.

Death

Amanda Jane (Haley) Scott died in 1889. I have been unable to find burial information.

Further Actions / Follow-up

  • Follow-up with researcher to learn the source of his entry for Amanda Jane Haley’s birth.

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Endnotes

[1] 1870 Census (FS) (NARA), Family Search, 1870 Census – A. J. Haley – Township 5, Franklin County, Illinois. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M671-4YZ.

[2] Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940, Family Search, Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940 – Samuel Scott & Amanda Haley. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFKW-85D.

[3] As the saying says, “The first child can come anytime, the rest take nine months.”

[4] 1880 Census (FS), 1880 Census – Samuel Scott – Barren, Franklin, Illinois – ED 11, Page 8, Line 10. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXJN-MBG.

[5] Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940, Family Search, Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940 – James Vaughn & Laura Scott. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFK4-9C7.

 

Surname Saturday – Cochran

Montran, Barber, Blackhurst, Cochran Line
By Don Taylor

Sometimes it is necessary to just put the brakes on.  So, is the case with Surname Saturday for Cochran. My fourth great-grandmother, Lydia Ellen Cochran, supposedly, is the wife of Stephen Blackhurst (1775-1845), and the mother of Stephen Blackhurst (1801-1849). She supposedly was born in 1754 and died in 1827. Oh my…. That would have made her 21 years older than her husband Stephen and 47 years-old when she gave birth to Stephen the son. Humm…. Possible, but not very likely. Also, I looked for a source document that would have shown these facts and have been unable to find one definitively tying Stephen Blackhurst (b. 1801) to Lyndia Ellen (Cochran) Blackhurst.

So, I probably have something incorrect; as such, I need to do more research to either confirm or correct my current information. Luckily, the next person I have on my Brown/Montran Research list to do an ancestry biography for is Stephen Blackhurst (1801-1869). In researching him, I should be able to identify his parents conclusively.

In the meantime, I’m going to skip Cochran in my Surname Saturday reports for now and hold it for a later investigation. Cochran might be one of my ancestral surnames, maybe it is not.  We’ll see.

Biography – Enoch Mannin (1823-1907)

Roberts-Brown-2017 Research
Brown/Mannin Line
Ancestor #52

By Don Taylor

Enoch Mannin is one of my “go to” ancestors.  That is to say that if I find a new database or website I ask myself, should I find something about Enoch on that site?  It is also a person that I search for on a system I know little about.  Will Enoch be there? Enoch lived a really full life, he was born in Kentucky, he fought for the Union during the civil war. After the war, he migrated to Minnesota and homesteaded land there. So, there are many placed and records that mention him. Also, his name is helpful because is helps me understand the search criteria needed to be used. Are Mannin and Manning the same – Are Mannon and Mannan also included in the same search or do I need to use wildcards.

I think having a person whose life you know a lot about, so you can differentiate him from other people with the same or a similar name, and is a person that appears in many records helps to clarify a collection. For me, Enoch Mannin is that guy.  Do you have such a person in your tree that you can always “go to”?

List of Grandparents

  • Grand Parent: Richard Earl Brown
  • 1st Great: Mary Elizabeth Manning
  • 2nd Great: John William Manning
  • 3rd Great: Enoch Mannin[i]
  • 4th Great: Meredith Mannin
  • 5th Great: John Bosel Mannin*
  • 6th Great: Samuel Mannin*
  • 7th Great: Meredith Mannin*

*Parentage unconfirmed but believed to be correct.

Enoch Mannin (1823-1907)

Photo of Enoch Mannin
Enoch Mannin

Enoch Mannin was born on 03 Jan 1823[ii] in Owingsville, Bath County, Kentucky. He was the first child of twelve children born to Meredith Mannin and Rachel (Fugate) Mannin.

Childhood

Enoch appears to have gained a kind of wanderlust while a child. He and his brothers, Isaac and Thomas, were born in Kentucky, presumably Bath county but the family didn’t stay there long.

About 1829 the family moved to Missouri. The 1830 Census finds the Meredith Manning family, with four boys, the three born in Kentucky and one, Tubill, was born in Missouri. They were living in St. Ferdinand, St. Louis, Missouri.[iii] St. Ferdinand is an area of Saint Louis just north of the city much of which is in the flood plain where the Missouri and Mississippi rivers meet. Siblings Reuben and Katherine were also born in Missouri in 1831 and 1833 respectively.

About 1835, the family moved to Indiana, where siblings John, Mahala, Elizabeth, and Sarah Jane were born. The 1840 Census finds the family in Boone County, Indiana.[iv] Oddly enough, one child appears to be missing from the 1840 Census. At the time, they should have had two boys from 10 to under 15 in the household, Thomas (age 13) and Tubill (age 10). However, the census shows only one male child in that age range.  I don’t know if one of them was just missed in the census or if one of them was elsewhere.  Both do appear in subsequent records.  All other children appear to be present in the 1840 census records.

About 1841, the family moved to Carter County, Kentucky.  There his two youngest siblings Zachariah in 1841 and Tarlton in 1842 were born.

So, it seems that Enoch’s wanderlust was developed as a child; he lived in at least four different locations in three states while he was growing up.

Marriage

When he was 20, he married Minerva Ann Tolliver, daughter of Tulion Tolliver and Martha Mannin, on 15 Oct 1843 in Grayson, Carter County, Kentucky. The ceremony was performed by Joseph Nichols who appears to have had a “Christian Church” in Morgan County.

Enoch and Minerva had nine children. They were:

  1. Charlie was probably born circa 1844 and died about 1850.
  2. John William Manning: born between 1845-1846 in Kentucky. He died on 25 Apr 1888 in Carter County, Kentucky. He married Elisa Jane Fannin before 1880 in Kentucky.
  3. Isaac Wilson Mannin was born between 1845-1846 in Kentucky (Probably Owingsville, Bath County). He died on 01 Nov 1931 in Yakima, Yakima County, Washington. He married Hattie T. [Unknown] in 1868 in Kentucky.
  4. Nancy Ann Mannin was born in Mar 1849 in Kentucky (She was age 10/12 during the 1850 Census). She died on 02 Feb 1913 in Ogema, Saskatchewan, Canada. She married Jessie Monroe Barnett on 22 Jan 1867 in Carter County, Kentucky.
  5. Meredith Mannin was born between 1850-1851 in Kentucky.
  6. Sarah Jane Mannin was born between 1854-1855 in Kentucky (Probably Owingsville, Bath County7). She died on 28 Jan 1942 in Medical Lake, Spokane, Washington14 (At age 88 & 4 Months). She married Joseph Hatfield Bryant in 1869 in Kentucky.
  7. Mary Ermaline Mannin was born between 1855-1856 in Kentucky. She died after 1899. She married was married twice.

She married Thomas N Jones on 17 May 1875 in Cass, Minnesota.
She married again to George Washington Gates in 1899 in Cass, Minnesota.

  1. Gresella Mannin was born between 1856-1857 in Kentucky. She died in 1897 in Bemidji, Beltrami, Minnesota.
  2. Prudence Mannin was born between 1859-1860 in Kentucky. She died after Jul 1898. She married a McDonald on 12 May 1877 in Olive Hill, Carter, Kentucky.

Adult

The 1850 Census indicates Enoch is living in Bath County, Kentucky working as a laborer. He has a modest amount of real estate (valued at $50). He cannot read and write – a capability he doesn’t appear to ever achieve.  With him in the census records are his wife Minerva, and three children, John W, Isaac, and Nancy A.[v]

The 1860 Census indicates Enoch is still living in Bath County, Kentucky. He is a farmer whose real estate value is only $25. His personal property is $80. Living with him are his wife and six children, presumably all his and Minerva’s.[vi]  they were

  • William (John William), age 15, who was working as a farm hand.
  • Isaac, age 12
  • Nancy, age 10
  • Sarah, age 5
  • Emaline, age 4
  • Grasella, age 3

All were born in Kentucky.

The Civil War

The civil war broke out in April 1861 when the Confederates attacked Fort Sumter.  However, the war built up slowly as more and more men volunteered to serve in the Confederate and Union Armies. In April 1862, the Confederates enabled conscription (a draft). In July 1962, the Union also enabled conscription when a state couldn’t meet its quota with volunteers. Because Enoch was over 35, he probably would have never been drafted, but he did volunteer to serve on 29 Aug 1863. On that same day, he signed a parental consent for his son, and my 2nd great-grandfather, John W. Mannin to enlist early.  John was only 17, but he was to turn 18 in the next couple months. Also, enlisting on the same day at Olive Hill with Enoch and John W. was a John N. Mannin. I have not determined the relationship between John N. and John W. or Enoch Mannin, yet, but their simultaneous enlistment cannot be a coincidence.

When Enoch enlisted, he was 40-years-old, however, he reported his age as 44. I don’t know if there was some sort of advantage to being older in his enlistment or not. He was 5’6” tall, had black hair and black eyes.[vii]

He mustered in at Grayson, Carter County, Kentucky on 28 September 1863. He serviced with Company E, 40th Kentucky Volunteer Mounted Infantry. I have not had a chance to follow the action of the 40th. KY Vol, Mounted Inf. yet.

I do know that he was captured by Morgan in 1864 and was finally released.[viii]

He mustered out at Catlettsburg, Boyd County, Kentucky on 30 December 1864.[ix]

After the War

The 1870 Census found Enoch living near Grayson, in Carter County, Kentucky, as a farmer. His real estate value had risen to $250 and his personal property was now $350. Living with him is his wife, Minerva, and four children, Meredith (age 19), Mary (age 16), Gazella (age 13), and Prudence (age 10). All of the children had attended school in the past year.[x]

The 1880 Census finds Enoch and Minerva still together, however, living with them are his son Isaac, Isaac’s wife Tennessee, and five of their children, Samuel, Henry, Frances, James, and Phodeence (?).[xi]

The Move North

Key places in Enoch Mannin's Life
Key places in Enoch Mannin’s Life

In the fall of 1882, Enoch led a group of 9 families from Kentucky to Minnesota. Besides he and his wife Minerva, there were 8 other families.[xii]

  1. His daughter Sarah Jane and her husband Joseph Bryant
  2. His daughter Nancy A. and her husband, Jesse Barnett.
  3. His daughter Mary E. and her husband, Thomas Jones.
  4. His son Isaac and his wife, Hattie.
  5. His grandson, John T. Bryant and his wife Mary (Son of Sarah Jane)
  6. His cousin, Joseph Fugate and his wife Eliza.
  7. The nephew of his son-in-law (Joseph), Squire Bryant and his wife Elizabeth.
  8. Finally, a friend and neighbor, John W. and Mary Horn.

And, of course, all their children.  I can only imagine the difficulties they faced on the long, 900-mile, trip from Grayson, Kentucky up to Holding Township, Stearns County Minnesota during the winter.  They arrived in February[xiii] and immediately set up households.

The 1885 Census is somewhat confusing.  Some oral history indicates that Phoebe Manning was raised by her aunt and uncle Mary E. (Mannin) and Thomas W. Jones and her sister Mary Manning was raised by their father, John William Manning.  Other oral history indicates that both Mary and Phoebe Manning were raised by Tommy and Mary E. Jones. In either event, both Mary and Phoebe, along with their older brother Robert, are all living with grandparents Enoch and Minerva Mannin in near Saint Anna in Holding Township, Stearns County, Minnesota.  Tomas and Mary Jones were also living in Holding Township, Stearns Count, Minnesota.[xiv] So, it is confusing when Mary and Phoebe lived with Tom and Mary Jones and when they lived with Enoch and Minerva. If any cousins can shed some light on this topic, I’d love to hear.

The Final Move

Map of Mannin Homesteads in Csss County
Mannin’s in Section 22 & 26, Township 134, Cass County, Minnesota

In the winter of 1887-1888, Enoch and several of the other families moved again – This time to Township 134 (May Township), Cass County, Minnesota.[xv] They began homesteading properties there. In February 1894, Enoch received a patent for 160 acres of land – The NE Quarter of Section 22 in township 134 North (later known as May Township) of Range 31 West of the Fifth Principal Meridian in Minnesota.[xvi]

John William Manning (Enoch’s oldest son and Mary and Phoebe’s father) died in April of 1888. By all oral accounts, the two children lived with the Jones’ after that.  Oral history from Mary Manning said that Enoch was very strict and stern. Apparently, getting out from under Enoch’s rule was enough motivation to marry young, very young. Mary married Arthur Durwood Brown on 19 October 1891 when she was only 13 years old. Phoebe apparently toughed it out longer

The 1895 Minnesota Census shows Enoch living in Township 134 (May Township), Cass County Minnesota with his wife Minova [Minerva]. In the same household is his grandson, Robert J. Mannin with his wife, Martha J, and two of their children, Perly and Ernest.[xvii]

The 1900 Census finds Enoch and Minerva still living in living in Township 134. The census confirms Enoch was born in January 1823 and that Minerva was born in February. It has an error in Minerva’s birth year indicating 1881 rather than 1821, but the mistake is clear as her age is 78 years old. The two had been married 57 years. Minerva had had nine children, five of whom were still living.[xviii]  All nine have been accounted for.

  • Dead – Charlie Mannin died c. 1850
  • Dead – John William died in 1888
  • Dead – Gresella died in 1897
  • Alive – Isaac Wilson died 1931.
  • Alive – Nancy Ann died in 1913.
  • Alive – Sarah Jane died in 1942.
  • Alive – Mary Ermaline died in 1941.
  • Alive – Prudence died in 1940.
  • Dead (by deduction) – Meredith must have died before 1900.

On 24 October 1902, Meredith’s wife Minerva died. They had just celebrated their 59th wedding anniversary.

The 1905 Minnesota Census shows the 82-year-old Enoch living alone in May Township[xix].

Death

Marker - Enoch Mannin
Marker – Enoch Mannin

Enoch died on 7 April 1907, in May Township, Cass County, Minnesota.  He is buried in Bridgeman Cemetery, May Township, with a marker showing his Civil War service in Company E, 40th Kentucky Infantry.[xx]

Further Actions / Follow-up

  • I need to follow the Civil War action of the 40th. KY Vol, Mounted Inf.
  • I also need to research the further moves of the nine families. (Some moved to Washington, some to Canada, others to Oregon.)

 Photos

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Endnotes

[i] Mannin, Manning, Mannen, and Mannon are used interchangeably in various documents. My tendency is to use the variation used in the source/document I am citing from, however, occasionally I will use my preferred spelling regardless of the document.

[ii] Mannin Family Bible, Copy, Mannin Family Bible – Family Records – Births.

[iii] 1830 Census (A) (NARA), Ancestry.Com, 1830 Census – Meredith Manning – St Ferdinand. St Louis County, Missouri.

[iv] 1840 Census (A) (NARA), Ancestry.Com, Year: 1840; Census Place: Boone, Indiana; Roll: 74; Page: 138.

[v] 1850 Census (A), Ancestry.Com, Enoch Mannan – Division 2, Bath, Kentucky – Page 71, Family 486 – Line 26. Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Division 2, Bath, Kentucky; Roll M432_191; Page: 36A; Image: 453.

Accessed 4/25/2010.  http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?h=16880200&db=1850usfedcenancestry&indiv=1

[vi] 1860 Census (A) (NARA), Ancestry.Com, 1860 Census – Enoch Manning – Owingsville, Bath, Kentucky – Page 234. Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: , Bath, Kentucky; Roll M653_355; Page: 234; Image: 234; Family History Library Film: 803355. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?h=39181328&db=1860usfedcenancestry&indiv=1

[vii] Enlistment Papers – Enoch Mannin – 29 Aug 1863 http://dontaylorgenealogy.com/2017/01/enlistment-papers-enoch-mannin-29-aug-1863.html/

[viii] http://dontaylorgenealogy.com/2015/11/veterans-day-2015.html/

[ix] Adjutant General’s Report, PAGE 432 – Company E, 40th KY Vol Mounted Infantry. ROLL OF COMPANY “E,” FORTIETH KENTUCKY VOLUNTEER MOUNTED INFANTRY.

[x] 1870 Census (A) (NARA), Ancestry.Com, 1870 Census – Enock Mannon – Grayson, Carter, Kentucky – Page 10. Year: 1870; Census Place: Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky; Roll M593_454; Page: 131B; Image: 266; Family History Library Film: 545953. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?h=17854241&db=1870usfedcen&indiv=1.

[xi] 1880 Census (A) (NARA), Ancestry.Com, 1880 Census – Enoch Mannin – Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky – ED 15, Page 20. Year: 1880; Census Place: Precinct 4, Carter, Kentucky; Roll T9_408; Family History Film: 1254408; Page: 547.4000; Enumeration District: 15; Image: 0374. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi– bin/sse.dll?h=41986895&db=1880usfedcen&indiv=1.

[xii] e-mail, 2016-11-18 – Attachment “Bryant & Mannin Information” ., Email from B. (H.) Jones to Don Taylor – privately held.

[xiii] 1895 Minnesota Census (State of Minnesota), Ancestry.Com, 1895 Minnesota Census – Enock Mannie [Enoch Mannin] – Township 134, Cass, Minnesota – Page 19.

[xiv] 1885 Minnesota Census, Ancestry.Com, 1885 Minnesota Census – Enoch Mannin – Holding, Stearns County, Minnesota – Page 3, Line 30, Family 21.

[xv] 1895 Minnesota Census (State of Minnesota), Ancestry.Com, 1895 Minnesota Census – Enock Mannie [Enoch Mannin] – Township 134, Cass, Minnesota – Page 19

[xvi] General Land Office Records (U.S. Department of the Interior), Bureau of Land Management, Enoch Mannin – Homestead Certificate No. 8277, Application 14821. https://glorecords.blm.gov/details/patent/default.aspx?accession=MN2060__.280&docClass=STA&sid=demhmt3w.2lc#patentDetailsTabIndex=1.

[xvii] 1895 Minnesota Census (State of Minnesota), Ancestry.Com, 1895 Minnesota Census – Enock Mannie [Enoch Mannin] – Township 134, Cass, Minnesota – Page 19

[xviii] 1900 Census (A) (NARA), Ancestry.Com, 1900 Census – Enoch Mannin – Cass, Minnesota – Township 134, Range 31 – ED 48, Sheet 5B. Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 134, Cass, Minnesota; Roll T623_759; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 48. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?h=26154889&db=1900usfedcen&indiv=1.

[xix] 1905 Minnesota Census, Ancestry.Com, Enoch Mannin (Manner) – May Township, Class County, Minnesota. http://search.ancestry.com/search/collections/MNstatecen/2582361/printer-friendly?ssrc=pt&tid=40083876&pid=19447704566&usePUB=true.

[xx] Find a Grave – Memorial #60388199 – Enoch Mannin – https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=60388199.

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