Where my Ancestors were 100 years ago.

Mappy Monday
By Don Taylor

Photo of Don Taylor with cat Nasi.Randy Seaver in his blog, Genea-Musings suggested that we look at where our ancestors were 100 years ago. I thought I’d take a stab at it more from a location perspective. In October 1917, my ancestors were in Illinois, Indiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, and Minnesota. Just “I” and “M” states. My paternal side are the “I” states; the Roberts were in Illinois and the Scotts were in Indiana. My maternal side are the “M” states; the Browns were in Minnesota and the Montrans (Barbers) were in Michigan, except for my grandmother, Madonna (Donna) who lived in Massachusetts for a short time.

Map of my Ancestor locations in 1917.
My Ancestor Locations in 1917.

Paternal Side:

My paternal grandfather, Bert Allen Roberts, was 14 years old. His father had died in 1908 and he was living with his mother, step-father, brother and two sisters. It isn’t clear if they were living in Turman, Sullivan County, Indiana (1910) or in Hutsonville, Crawford County, Illinois (1920), but I think they were still in Indiana.

Bert’s 71-year-old grandmother, Patience Ann (Marshall) (Dean) Roberts was living in Sesser, Barren Township, Franklin County, Illinois.

Bert’s 34-year-old mother, Clora Dell (Scott) (Roberts) Adams was married to Hosea Adams. It is unclear if they were still in Turman, Sullivan, Indiana, or if they had relocated to Hutsonville, Crawford County, Illinois in 1917.

Clora’s father, Samuel Vaden Scott, had remarried Lavina Allmend after the death of Amanda Jane Haley. The 57-year old was living in Goode Township, Franklin County, Illinois.

My paternal grandmother, Essie Pansy Barnes, was 14 years old. She was living on the farm near Turman, Sullivan County, Indiana.

Essie’s father, Joel Clinton Barnes, was 60 years old and living on a farm near Graysville, Turman Township, Sullivan County, Indiana.

Essie’s mother, Marada A. (Lister) Barnes, was 50 years old and living with Joen on the farm near Graysville, Turman Township, Sullivan County, Indiana.

 

Maternal side

My maternal grandfather, Clifford D Brown, later known as Richard Earl Durand and even later as Richard Earl Brown, (Grandpa Dick) was also 14 years-old. He lived with his family in Backus, Cass County, Minnesota.

Clifford/Richard’s father, Arthur Durwood Brown, was 48-years-old and living in Backus, Cass County, Minnesota.

Clifford/Richard’s mother, Mary Elizabeth (Manning) Brown, was 39-years-old and living with her husband, Arthur, in Backus.

My maternal grandmother, Madonna Mae Montran, (later known as Donna) was married to Thomas Valentine Rooney (her second marriage). (It does not appear that she ever took his surname.) They were probably living in Wrentham, Norfolk County, Massachusetts, although they may have located to New York City about that time.  Madonna’s father died before 1900 and I have been unsuccessful in determining his parents.

Madonna’s (Donna’s) mother, Ida Mae (Barber) (Montran) (Fisher) (Holdsworth) Knight was living with her 4th husband, Harvey Knight in Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan.

Ida’s mother, Sarah H (Blackhurst) Barber was also living in Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan. Her husband, Frank Barber, died earlier in 1917.

Thoughts

Thirteen of my direct ancestors were alive in September 1917. That is all four of my grandparents, six of my great-grandparents, and three of my 14 known great-great-grandparents.

Based upon their locations in 1917, I can say my father’s line came from Illinois and Indiana and my mother’s line came from Michigan and Minnesota.  I have a birthplace chart that shows where my ancestors were born that tells a somewhat different story. Grandpa Dick was born in North Dakota but was in Minnesota in 1917. Similarly, my great-grandmother, Mary (Manning) Brown, was born in Kentucky but was in Minnesota in 1917.

My life locations provide some of greatest location distances of anyone I know. I was born in Portland, Oregon; I hail from Minnesota, having lived there during most of my youth and over 35 years total. Over the years, I have lived in Oregon, Minnesota, Michigan, Colorado, Montana, California, Virginia, Hawaii, Massachusetts, West Virginia, Georgia, and Maine. Now, I live about 3,200 miles away from my birth location of Portland, Oregon, in Portland, Maine.


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Ancestor Biography – Amanda Jane Haley (1861-1889)

Roberts-Brown-2017 Research
Roberts-Scott-Haley Line

By Don Taylor

Photo of Don Taylor with cat Nasi.

One of the reasons I went back to Family Tree Maker for Mac 3 is the way it handles and sources multiple names for individuals. FTMM3 allows multiple names and allows applying different sources to each name.  I find this feature important when an individual’s name is unclear and I want to track where I got each specific name. Rather than an alias or a nickname, I use multiple names as a means to help determine which name is the actual correct name. I want to understand the various potential names and the sources for them until I can decide which name is correct for the individual and if the other names are aliases, nicknames, or mistakes. Such is the case for the father of Amanda Jane Haley whose father I accept as A. J. Haley. The “A.” probably stands for Andrew but it might be Adrico. I will need to do more research to be certain. Such is the way of genealogical research. I’ll take the safe way and say her father was A. H. Haley. I’ll research and sort out his name in a subsequent biography project when I explore his life more.

List of Grandparents

  • 4          Grandfather: Bert Allen Roberts
  • 9          1st Great-grandmother: Clora Dell Scott
  • 19       2nd Great-grandmother: Amanda Jane Haley
  • 38       3rd Great-grandfather: A. J. Haley

Ancestor #19 – Amanda Jane Haley (1861-1889)

Birth

Drawing of Amanda Jane (Haley) Scott
Amanda Jane Haley Scott
From the Chris H. Bailey family photo collection.

Amanda Jane Haley was born in Tennessee (probably Coffee County) to A. J. and Martha Malinda (Montgomery) Haley. The date of her birth is somewhat confusing.

The 1870 Census indicates she was 10 years old, suggesting a birth between 2 June 1859 and 1 June 1860.

Her marriage in May of 1879 at the age of 19 also suggests that she was born in 1859 or 1860.

The 1880 census, suggests she was born in March of 1859 by indicating her age as 19 and 2/12.

So, pretty much everything I’ve found suggests her birth to be in 1859 or 1860, except for the 1860 Census.  In 1860, her parents were in Coffee County, Tennessee, and the Census record there shows her older sister Mary (May) in the household but not Amanda Jane. If she were born in 1859 or 1860 before the census was taken, I would expect to see her in the record. I do not, so I believe she was born later. Another researcher, whose research I respect, indicates her birthday as being in April, 1861. So, I’m going to accept that date for now and see if I can find out his source.

Childhood

Amanda had a sister, Mary F who was two to three years older. She also had a younger sister, Serena who was about six years younger.  She would have been a young child during the Civil War.  Sometime between her birth (in 1861) and 1867, the family moved from Tennessee to Franklin County, Illinois.

The 1870 Census finds 10-year-old Amanda living with her parents and an older sister, Mary, in Township 5S, Franklin County, TN.[1]

Her sister Mary married Theodore Edward L. Curry on 26 February 1878 in Franklin County, Illinois.

Marriage

Amanda married Samuel Vaden Scott on 24 May 1879 in Goode Township, Franklin County, Illinois.[2] Samuel was 19 and Amanda was, most likely, 18-years-old.

Adulthood

In December 1879, the first of their four children, Clara Maybelle Scott, was born.[3]

The 1880 Census found the Scott family living in Barren Township, Franklin County, Illinois.[4]

Clora Dell Scott was born on 6 February 1883 in Goode Township and Laura Wells Scott was born on 27 July 1888 In McGlasson.[5] A fourth, unnamed, child was born and died as an infant.

Death

Amanda Jane (Haley) Scott died in 1889. I have been unable to find burial information.

Further Actions / Follow-up

  • Follow-up with researcher to learn the source of his entry for Amanda Jane Haley’s birth.

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Endnotes

[1] 1870 Census (FS) (NARA), Family Search, 1870 Census – A. J. Haley – Township 5, Franklin County, Illinois. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M671-4YZ.

[2] Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940, Family Search, Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940 – Samuel Scott & Amanda Haley. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFKW-85D.

[3] As the saying says, “The first child can come anytime, the rest take nine months.”

[4] 1880 Census (FS), 1880 Census – Samuel Scott – Barren, Franklin, Illinois – ED 11, Page 8, Line 10. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXJN-MBG.

[5] Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940, Family Search, Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940 – James Vaughn & Laura Scott. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFK4-9C7.

 

Samuel Vaden Scott – A Man of Two Families

Roberts-Brown-2016 Research

Roberts/Scott Line
By Don Taylor

Samuel Vaden Scott c. 1902 - From the Chris H. Bailey family photo collection.
Samuel Vaden Scott c. 1902

Samuel Vaden Scott was married twice. The first time with Amanda Jane Haley.  He and Amanda had four children. Amanda died in 1889 and Samuel remarried. The original children seemed to scatter and Samuel and new wife Luvenia had five children. There isn’t any evidence that the children of the first marriage ever interacted with the children of the second marriage.

RB-18 – Samuel Vaden Scott (1860-1931)

Again, I find that creating a table showing the various records which speak of an individual’s birth can bring clarity out of conflicting records. I think this is particularly important when other researchers suggest conflicting dates for an individual’s birth.

Records indicating birth year of Samuel Vaden Scott

Record Comments Year Suggested
1870 Census Age 9 1860
1879 Marriage Index Age 18 1860
1880 Census Age 19 1860
1900 Census Nov 1860 1860
1910 Census Age 38 1861
1920 Census Age 57 1864
1931 Find a Grave 1862 1862
1931 Ill. Deaths Index Age 67 1864

It is a clear case where the early records provide consistent birth information; however, Samuel became younger as he aged.

It is not clear how many siblings Samuel grew up with. He had a sister, Viola, one year older, and had two brothers, Francis and William, who were ten and 11 years younger respectively. I need to do more research to determine if there were other siblings, so far unknown.

Samuel was born in Franklin County, Illinois. At age 9, the family lived in Freeburg, Saint Clair County, Illinois. The family consisted of his parents, William and Emily Scott, his older sister, Viola, and his infant brother, Francis.

Samuel married Amanda Jane Haley on 24 May 1879.  And their daughter, Clara was born seven months later, in December 1879. (They say the first child can come anytime, the rest take nine months.)

1880 Census - Samuel & Amanda Scott
Crop of 1880 Census – Samuel & Amanda Scott

The 1880 Census records the family living in Barren, Franklin County, Illinois. Samuel is a farmer and his wife is keeping house. Daughter Clara is present and shown to have been born in December. Interestingly, Amanda’s entry indicates that her age is 19-2/12.  I don’t believe I’ve ever seen the months entered for a person that old. That age is consistent with other records which indicate Amanda was born in March, 1861.

In February 1883, their second daughter Clora was born.  Their having daughters named Clara and Clora has made my research more difficult because a handwritten “a” and a handwritten “o” can look much alike, particularly when followed by an “r”.

Amanda died in 1889. More research is needed to understand her death at only 27 years of age.

On Christmas Day 1892, Samuel Vaden Scott married the widow Lavina (Allmend) Shockley; Lavina had had two children with her first husband. One child is unknown, the other was, I believe, Alma Gertrude Shockley.  Gertrude, as she was known, adopted the surname Scott.

Sam and Lavina had five children,

Child Birth Marriage Death
Elmer W.[1] April 1894 1916 – Age 22
Amanda July 1897 1897 – Age 3 mos
Lillie Ellen Dec 1900 m. Jesse Wilkerson 1978 – Age 77
Flossie Ann Sep 1904 1909 – Age 5
William Edward Feb 1908 m. Birdie Guitar Unk.

Elmer, Amanda, Lillie, Flossie, and William.  It is unusual that their first girl of Sam and Lavina was named Amanda, the same first name as Samuel’s deceased first wife.

Lavina, Lillie (on lap), Gertie, Elmer, Samuel V. Scott c. 1902
Lavina, Lillie (on lap), Gertie, Elmer, Samuel V. Scott c. 1902
From the Chris H. Bailey family photo collection.

We may never know if it was the death of Amanda that sent the family moving west but, by 1900 the family had located 110 miles west to St. Francois Township, St. Francois County, Missouri. Besides Sam and Luvina (Lavina) and their children (Gertrude is identified as Samuel’s daughter, not his step-daughter as I believe she was) are two boarders, Robert Montgomery and Clarence Williams.

The 1910 Census finds the family had moved 30 miles east to Sainte Genevieve Township, Sainte Genevieve County, Missouri. The family, Samuel and Livina (Lavina), included four children, Gertrude, Elmer, Lillian and Edward. Flossie Ann was  born and had died during the previous decade. Samuel was still a farm hand and they were renting a house (not a farm).

The 1920 Census found the family had returned to Franklin County, Illinois. Now to Goode Township. Only William was still with Sam and Lavina. Elmer died in 1916; I presume that Lillie had married Jessie Wilkerson.

Search Military Records - Fold3By 1930, Sam and Luvina had returned to  Sainte Genevieve County, Missouri.  They were living in Union Township (not to be confused with Union, Missouri).

Samuel Vaden Scott died of liver cancer on 28 July 1931 at the home of his son, William Edward Scott in Goode Township, Franklin County, Illinois.  He was buried at Maple Hill Cemetery in Sesser, Franklin County, Illinois.  He was survived by his wife, Lavina; three daughters, Clara Maybelle (Scott) Mooneyham, Clora Dell (Scott) Roberts Adams, and Lillie Ellen (Scott) Wilkerson; a son, William Edward Scott.

Further Actions / Follow-up

  • Research the period between Samuel’s birth and the birth of Francis.
  • Research Amanda’s (the child) death closer.

List of Grandparents

  • #4 – Grandfather: Bert Allen Roberts
  • #9 – 1st Great-grandmother: Clora Dell Scott
  • #18 – 2nd Great-grandfather: Samuel Vaden Scott
  • #36 – 3rd Great-grandfather: William Hunter Scott

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Sources

  1. Family Search: 1870 Census – Willim [William] Scott – Freeburg, St. Clair County, Illinois, Page 18, Line 30-34. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6WN-2W2
  2. Family Search: 1880 Census – Samuel Scott – Illinois, Franklin, Barren, ED 11, Page 8, Line 10 – https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXJN-MBL
  3. Family Search: 1900 Census – Samuel Scott – Missouri, Saint Francois County, Saint Francois Township, ED98, Sheet 19A, Line 35 – https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M38N-FCP
  4. Ancestry.Com: 1910 Census – Samuel V Scott – Sainte Genevieve Township, Sainte Genevieve County, Missouri – ED 137, Sheet 16A, Lines 5-10.
  5. Ancestry.Com: 1920 Census – Sam Scott – Goode, Franklin, Illinois –  ED 40, Page 34B, Line 92-94.
  6. Ancestry.Com: 1930 Census – Samuel Scott – Union, Sainte Genevieve, Missouri, ED 0009, Page 4B, Lines 72-73.
  7. Bailey, Chris H. File: “The Samuel Vaden Scott Family” – Samuel Vaden Scott – 1 – (Contact information provided upon request.)
  8. Find a Grave: Memorial# 110524184 – Samuel V. Scott
  9. Family Search: Illinois Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947 – Samuel Scott (1864-1931) – https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3WJ-YLL
  10. Family Search: Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1934 – Samuel V. Scott – Amanda J. Haley – https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFK4-RF1
  11. Chris H. Bailey Photo Collection.

Endnotes

[1] Some researchers suggest his name was Elmer Daniel Scott rather than Elmer W. Scott as indicated in the 1900 Census.

Bio – Clora Dell Scott Roberts Adams

Bio – Clora Dell Scott Roberts Adams (1883-1945)

Clora Dell Scott Roberts Adams
Photo from the Chris H. Bailey
family photo collection.
Clora Dell Scott is my great-grandmother on my newly found Roberts line. Because “O”s can look like “A”s when written various records, as you will see, sometimes records provide her name as Clora and sometimes Clara.  These name differences are confusing because she has an older sister named Clara. Luckily, Clora’s middle name of Dell is in contrast to her sister’s middle initial of “M.”

Birth

Clora was born on 6 February 1883 in Goode, Franklin County, Illinois.[1] Like many women, she doesn’t age quite as quickly as the calendar.
In 1908, on her marriage license to Hosea Adams, she indicated a birth date of 6 Feb 1884.[2]
In 1920 Census, she states her age as 35, also inferring the birth year of 1884.[3]
In 1936, on her Social Security Application, she indicated a birth date of 6 Feb 1889.[4] (In the 53 years to 1936 she only aged 47 years.)
She was the second child of Samuel Vaden Scott and Amanda Jane Haley. Her older sister, Clara, was born in 1879. We know that she had another sister, Laura born in 1888. She also had another sibling born, probably about 1885 or 1886 who died as an infant. Her sibling’s death was the first of many tragedies in her life.   

Mother’s Death

Clora was only six-years-old when her mother died in 1889. Her father married Lavina A. Shockley three years later. Samuel and Lavina had six children; Alma, Elmer, Amanda, Lillie Flossie and William giving Clora six half-siblings. Her father lived to a ripe old age of 71. 

First Marriage – Roberts

Clora and Hugh Ellis Roberts
with Carrie and Harry c. 1901.
Photo from the Chris H. Bailey
family photo collection. 
Clora married Hugh Ellis Roberts on 7 October 1900.  She was only 17 years old, and Hugh may have only been 16 years old when they married, but both indicated they were 18 on their marriage license. The families probably didn’t mind that that Clora and Hugh got married because seven months later, their first children, fraternal twins, were born.  Harry Ray Roberts and Carrie May Roberts were born on 22 May 1901 in Franklin County, Illinois.
Bert Allen Roberts, my grandfather, was born on 7 September 1903 in Spring Garden, Illinois.
Finally, Mable Ilean Roberts, Clora’s youngest child was born on 2 June 1908.

Tragedy Strikes Again and Then Again.

1908 was a terrible year for Clora.  On June 8th, her daughter Carrie died of diphtheria and measles. In 1908, both diseases were very communicable and very deadly.  It must have been horrific to try to care for a sick child and be pregnant at the same time. I’m sure the stress of trying to keep newborn Mable away from sick Carrie was difficult. Carrie was buried in Hammond Cemetery in Sesser, Franklin County, Illinois.[5] Two months later, Clora’s husband Hugh died of consumption (a term typically used to describe tuberculosis).  Hugh died on 30 August 1908 and is also buried in Hammond Cemetery in Sesser, IL.[6]

Second Marriage – Adams

Adams-Roberts Family c. 1916 - Copy from Kenneth G. Smith collection. Used by permission.
Adams-Roberts Family c.1916
Bert, Mable, & Harry Roberts
Hosea Adams (sitting)
Clora Dell Scott Roberts Adams
on right.
Photo Courtesy: Kenneth Smith
At this point in her life, she appears to have lived in Illinois all of her life.  However, something, or someone, convinced her to move to Indiana. It will take more research to figure out why she moved 150 miles away to Graysville, Indiana, where she married Hosea Lee Adams on 1 December 1908[7] only three months after the death of Bert. Hosea was born in 1889 and was six years younger than Clora. He was 19, and she was 25 at the time of the marriage. The couple lived in Sullivan County, Indiana, through 1910[8] and 1920[9] Census records.
Clora’s sons Bert Allen Roberts and Harry Ray Roberts both married in 1922 and Clora was still in Sullivan County. In 1925, Clora’s daughter Mabel Ilean Roberts married, and Clora is listed as living in Terre Haute.[10]

Later Years

With all of the kids grown and married, it appears that it was time to leave Hosea.  Sometime between 1925 and 1930, Clora and Hosea divorced and Clora moved to the Detroit, Michigan, area.  Again, I don’t know what brought her to Detroit. I have not managed to find Clora in the 1930 or the 1940 Census records. Finding her in those census records may provide insight into her life during those years.  With so many siblings it would be easy for her to hide from Hosea if she wanted to. It is also interesting to note that Clora’s name was listed as Clara in November 1942 in contrast to her name in her initial Social Security application in 1936.[11]

Death & Burial

Clora Dell (Scott) Roberts Adams died on 29 June 1945 in Detroit, Michigan at the age of 62. Her death record indicates her name as Clara.[12] Clora is buried at White Chapel Memorial Cemetery in Troy, Michigan.[13]  I am currently working to find her grave location, so I may visit her resting place in May. 

Further Actions:

·      Find Clora’s marker at the White Chapel Memorial Cemetery and visit.
·      Further analyze Clora’s siblings and determine if any of them were
o   In Sullivan County, Indiana, in 1908 that she may have gone to live with.
o   In Wayne County, Michigan, in 1930 that she may have gone to live with.

List of Greats

1.    Clora Dell Scott
2.     Samuel Vaden Scott
3.     William H. Scott

ENDNOTES

[1] Illinois Births and Christenings, 1824-1940; Clara Dell Scott, 06 Feb 1883; Birth, citing Goode, Franklin, Illinois; FHL microfilm 1,005,290; Family Search.
[2] Indiana Marriages, 1811-2007; Hosey L Adams to Clara D. Roberts – License; Family Search.
[3] 1920 Census; Hosey L Adams – Head; Ancestry.Com.
[4] U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007; Clora Dellescott Adams; Ancestry.Com.
[5] Chris H. Baley; The Samuel Vaden Scott Family – Clora Dell Scott.
[6] Ibid.
[7] Indiana Marriages, 1811-2007; Hosey Lee Adams – Clara [Clora] Dell Roberts – Marriage Registration; Family Search; https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XXFL-SMC.
[8] 1910 Census; Indiana, Sullivan, Turman, District 0178, Hosea Adams; Ancestry.Com.
[9] 1920 Census; Hosey L Adams – Head; Ancestry.Com.
[10] Indiana Marriages, 1811-2007; Olan Hart & Mable Ilean Roberts – 3 Jan 1925; Family Search.
[11] U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007; Clora Dellescott Adams; Ancestry.Com.
[12] Michigan Death Records, 1921-1947; Clara D. Adams – (aka Clora) 005362086_01019; Seeking Michigan.
[13] Find-a-Grave; Clara D. Adams –  Memorial# 141455260; http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=141455260.
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