The meetings of Dick Brown – Donna, Dorothy, & Cecelia

The most fascinating stories in our family histories are often about how and where our ancestors met. These stories are often lost in just a couple generations. We, obviously, know where and when we met our spouses and often know when, how, and where our parents met. Knowing how our grandparents met is unusual, and knowing how our great grandparents met is rare — Our oral histories usually don’t go back that far. As such, it is really important to document how and where our ancestors met so their stories can pass down to future generations.

The story of my grandfather’s meeting of my grandmother and of his wives is elusive. I’ve put together what I have from oral history and some documents that I’ve found. I know something of two of the three stories and know nothing of the third.

Donna on Right, c. 1930

As many of you know my grandmother, Donna, was in vaudeville. The story is that in 1929 and 1930 the vaudeville stage became increasingly difficult to find work. The depression was tough on live show business. My grandmother and her husband, Sammy Amsterdam, decided to travel to Panama because the depression hadn’t really hit Panama yet and there was work there. We don’t know what work Sammy found while in Panama, but we know that Donna became a “Cabaret Girl” at the Fort Amador Beach Club in Panama. (See: Donna Cabaret Girl in Panama.html.) My grandfather was in the Army, stationed in Panama, (See: Road Trip Clifford Dick Brown. and met my grandmother while she was working at a club there. We don’t know if he knew that Donna was married at the time, but according to oral history, he fell in love with her at first sight. He told his best friend that he was “going to marry that girl.” We also don’t know if his attentions broke up the marriage between Donna and Sammy or if they were already estranged when Dick first saw Donna. We do know that when Donna and Sammy returned to the States, in March of 1930, they were estranged. The two show up on separate pages of the passenger list, both indicating that they paid their passage themselves. Donna indicated her home as in Detroit, at her mother’s address; Sammy indicated his home as in New York, at his mother’s address.

It appears that, sometime in 1931, Dick got out of the service and went to see Donna. Donna got pregnant. Sammy knew that the child could not have been his, but, according to oral history, he remained married to Donna long enough to “give the child a name” then quietly divorced her.

Dick wanted to marry Donna and bring her and her children to Minnesota. Donna, however, had moved to Chicago and was very connected to the nightclub scene there. She wasn’t about to give up the glamor and excitement of 1930s Chicago for the rural life of northern Minnesota. Dick apparently saw the life that Donna was providing his daughter (probably neglectful) and decided that his daughter would be better off with him. He took their daughter, without Donna’s permission, and went to Minnesota with her. Donna sic’d the police on him and he was arrested for child-napping. Luckily, the Lindbergh Law, which made kidnapping a federal offence, had a provision that excepted parents for their own minor children or things could have been a lot worse.

In any event, after a big whoop-de-doo, between the governors of Minnesota and Illinois regarding extradition, (See: Article) Dick went to prison (or jail) sometime after April 1935. He couldn’t have been there very long. (Note: Clifford Brown and Richard “Dick” Brown are the same person.)Family oral history says that once Dick got out of prison, he went to see Donna one last time. He still loved her and wanted to marry her. She, once again, told him “NO.” After Donna’s rejection, Dick went to a bar/restaurant in Chicago. There, he met a young woman, Dorothy Louise Wilhelm. Her parents owned the place. They began to date, and in February 1936 Dick and Dorothy were married.

Dick and Dorothy divorced and Dick took care of his mother in the Pillager/Motley Minnesota area for many years. Dick married Cecelia Ann Squires in March of 1975 after his mother went into a nursing home. I have no knowledge of how or where he and Cecelia met. I would love to hear the story of their meeting if anyone knows it.

If you know anything of these stories that I have left out, please let me know and I’ll include it in an update.

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The Dr. Benjamin L. Long House

Howell/Hobbs/Long

By Don Taylor
Having a blog provides many benefits. One of the most compelling reasons to have a blog is that it forces you to closely examine your findings and facts. Do they make sense? It operates much like a diary in that it forces you to articulate what you think you know. Your blog can really act as a primary social networking methodology. I’ve sometimes heard blogs as being “cousin bait” and I’ve certainly had distant cousins contact me because of my postings.

The Long-Haislip House c. 1979 The Historic Architecture of Hamilton, North Carolina.

I recently had someone contact me about a blog posting, not because she was related but because she and her husband purchased a house that a relative of my wife once built and owned. I shared with the individual what I knew about the relative that owned the house and they shared what they were doing with the house.

Long-Haislip House 2013
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My wife’s great-grand uncle, Dr. B. L. Long built the house in 1885 in Hamilton, North Carolina. Known as the Long-Haislip House because it was sold to George Haislip in 1945, it was featured in the 1979 book, The Historic Architecture of Hamilton, North Carolina. Besides being his home, the building also acted as his Doctor’s office. After Dr. B. L. Long died in 1926, the house was home and office to his son, Dr. Edgar Miller Long.  
Long Haislip House, 2015
Photo courtesy: Historic Hamilton NC 

The home was sold again in the 1990s and then fell abandoned in the 2010s. Its deteriorated state is evident in a 2013 Google Maps drive-by photo. The photo shows significant paint damage, foundation issues, and general disrepair. In 2014, the house sold to some people who wanted to restore it to its original beauty. It was those new owners who contacted me and let me know that the house was being restored and cared for. It is so wonderful to see one of these ancient beauties being restored. Good on them. Their letting me know that the house is in good hands made my heart warm.

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Missing Murphy children and Frances Florence Murphy

Three missing Murphy children.

I really appreciate the 1900 Census. It can often provide a clue to a family history that may not be otherwise seen. Such is the case of Dennis F and Margaret Alice (Mahoney) Murphy. The 1900 census indicates that Margaret had four children and only one was living. The one living in 1900 was Frances Florence Murphy. But who were the other three, when were they born and when did they die?

The 1900 Census indicates that she was a widow living at 19 Vitromile Street. It was a multi-unit house and had another family (Dapfeil Coveny [??] – Head with a brother, sister, cousin, and a boarder) at the same address. I looked for Vetromile Street in present-day Biddeford and was unable to find it. I found a map of Biddeford from the 1930s and found that it is now St. Mary’s Street. Number 19 would have been right across the street from St. Mary’s Church.

The 1900 Census also indicates that Margaret worked as a cotton mill corder. There were several mills and garment factories two to four blocks away from where she and little 14-year-old Florence lived.

Margaret immigrated in 1870 and her husband, Dennis, was from Maine. Any children they could have had would have been born after 1870 and had to have died before 1900 in Biddeford, Maine.

Ancestry has a great database, Maine, Death Records, 1617-1922, which I used to search for clues.

Searching for Surname: Murphy
Born: 1880 +/- 10 years
Death: 1890 +/- 10 years in York County yielded 6 potential entries.

Results:

Susan – Father: William, Mother: Ann, not my family.
Nellie – No parents identified – Copy of old record of death – Possibly[i]
Tim – No parents identified. – Copy of old record of death – Possibly[ii]
Mary – Transcript Error – Actually age 62 at death not 12, not my family. 
Annie – No parents identified – Copy of old record of death – Possibly[iii]
Catherine – Father: Daniel (but born in Ireland) Mother: Annie Berry – Not my family.

The three possibilities need a little closer look.

Name
Birth
Age
Death
Nellie
Abt 1882
6
4 Apr 1888
Tim
Abt 1883
6
14 Nov 1889
Annie
Abt 1888
1
7 May 1889
Frances Florence
11 Apr 1886
I added Frances for comparison.
I see nothing incompatible with these births. All appear to fit the birth and death criteria for children of Margaret. I know that it is somewhat of a stretch to ascribe these three names to the three unknown children of Margaret; however, I think they fit and give a great starting point for further research actions. Until I find something to discredit these names, I’m going to use them as tentative names.

WB-05 – Frances Florence Murphy (1886-1952)

Frances Florence Murphy was born on 11 April 1886 in Biddeford, Maine, the third child of Dennis F and Margaret Alice (Mahoney) Murphy [iv].

Not the baby for long, her sister Annie was born 1-2 years later. Then disaster struck the family. Nellie, the oldest sibling died on 4 April 1888 at the age of six. A year later, Annie, her younger sister died on 7 May 1889 at the age of one. Six months later, her brother, Tim died on 14 Nov 1889 at the age of six. Disaster struck once again when her father died sometime before 1900[v].

The 1900 Census finds Florence living with her mother in a rented house at 19 Vitromile (now St. Marys) Street in Biddeford. Florence is attending school. It had to be a tough time for the teenager living with her widowed mother who was working in the mills and renting a house with another family.

On 19 Sep 1911 Frances F. Murphy married Herbert Winfield. Whitten in Kennebunkport, Maine[vi].; however, it appears they continued to live in Biddeford. Quickly, only 10 months later, the young couple had their first child, Paul Timothy Whitten on 6 July 1912.

Marker for Frances M. Whitten
Gracelawn Memorial Park, Auburn, Maine 
Photo by Christine via Find-a-Grave

Before 1918, the Whittens moved to Kennebunkport where their other four children were born.

The 1920 Census indicates the family lived on Main Street[vii] and on an unnumbered court near Main Street in 1930.[viii]

In 1940, the family is still renting the same house as they lived in on Garden Street, Kennebunk in 1935. [ix]

Frances Florence (Murphy) Whitten died in September, 1952[x]. She was buried at Gracelawn Memorial Park, Auburn, Androscoggin county, Maine[xi] on 24 September 1952.

Future Actions:

Search St. Mary’s Catholic Church Baptism Records for children with the parents of Dennis and Margaret (or Marguerite) Murphy. 
Search St. Mary’s Catholic Church for death records for Nettie, Tim and Annie Murphy around the dates above.

ENDNOTES

[i] Maine State Archives; Cultural Building, 84 State House Station, Augusta, ME 04333-0084; Pre 1892 Delayed Returns; Roll #: 79 – Nellie Murphy.
[ii] Maine State Archives; Cultural Building, 84 State House Station, Augusta, ME 04333-0084; Pre 1892 Delayed Returns; Roll #: 79 – Tim Murphy.
[iii] Maine State Archives; Cultural Building, 84 State House Station, Augusta, ME 04333-0084; Pre 1892 Delayed Returns; Roll #: 79 – Annie Murphy.
[iv] See my notes above regarding the three unknown children of Margaret Mahoney Murphy.
[v] Ancestry.com, 1900 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.comOperations Inc, 2004), 1900; Census Place: Biddeford, York, Maine; Roll: 602; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 0229; FHL microfilm: 1240602. https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&indiv=try&h=22490747.
[vi] Ancestry.com, Maine, Marriages, 1892-1996 (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.comOperations Inc, 2003), Francis F Murphy. https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=MaineMarriageState&h=1370507&indiv=try.
[vii] 1920 United States Census (FS) (National Archives and Records Administration), Family Search, Maine, York, Kennebunk, ED-109, Sheet 2B Line 36 (family 51). https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MF8W-K66.
[viii] Ancestry.com, 1930 United States Federal Census (Online publication – Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002.Original data – United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626,), Year: 1930; Census Place: Kennebunk, York, Maine; Roll: 841; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 0022; Image: 780.0; FHL microfilm: 2340576.
[ix] Ancestry.com, 1940 United States Federal Census (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012), Year: 1940; Census Place: Kennebunk, York, Maine; Roll: T627_1496; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 16-38.
[x] Private E-mail, Funeral Home to Don Taylor – 2015-10-12.
[xi] FInd-A-Grave, Frances M Whitten – Memorial #121464940.

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Charles Pine and the Scarborough Museum

 Charles Pine and the Scarborough Museum

I love helping Find-a-Grave. So, when I saw a request for a marker at the nearby Dunstan Cemetery I was happy to try to photograph the marker. It was even more exciting because my wife’s favorite beach and the road we live along (Pine Point) were named after that individual, Charles Pine. Charles Pine came to Scarborough about 1702 and died in Scarborough in 1753, so he was definitely one of the early settlers of Scarborough, Maine.
The entry for Charles “The Indian Fighter” Pine on Find-a-Grave was substantial[i]. Not only were his birth and death dates provided but also his children’s names and it indicated that he was buried at Dunstan Cemetery. Dunstan Cemetery is a modest size but still has over 1300 internments so it would be easy to miss a marker. Also, I was afraid that a 260-year-old burial might not still be marked. So, I thought I’d see what the Scarborough Museum (and Scarborough Historical Society) has that might help me. I recently began volunteering there and figured that finding Charles Pine’s marker would be a good little project to help me start learning about the resources at the museum.
I asked one of the other volunteers if they had anything showing the plots and markers for Dunstan Cemetery. She showed me a bookcase and said to look there. Sure enough, there was the perfect book, Dunstan Cemetery Records, Scarborough, ME ©1985 by Thomas Shaw Henley & Steven J. Bentley[ii]. What a fantastic book – and it is indexed. A quick look at the indexes and I immediately saw that Charles Pine was not listed. I did see the note that said, “There are many lots without stones at the cemetery and without records at town hall.” I thought, that’s that; no marker remains. Then I had another idea.

I had seen a large two-volume notebook, titled, “Cemeteries of Scarborough” ©1997 by Janice Makowski at the museum. I thought, “Maybe there is something in there,” so I gave it a quick look. There was Charles Pine, same death date as on Find-a-Grave; however, it said he was in Cemetery #56, “Pine Cemetery.” Apparently, Charles Pine, for whom Pine Point was named for, is buried near Broadturn Road, on the left, just before you cross the Nonesuch River. Ms. Makowski’s notes were extremely detailed as to exactly where the burial ground is located. Apparently, Charles is the only person interred there and two marker rocks, which contain no inscriptions, identify his burial plot.
Grave of Charles Pine (c. 1925)
Grandfather Tales of Scarborough, Page 102,
She also had copies of pages from the 1925 book, Grandfather Tales of Scarborough that included a photo of the stones[iii]. So, now I know Charles Pine isn’t buried at Dunstan Cemetery. The next time I drive up Broadturn Road on a nice dry day, I’ll try to stop and try to get a modern picture of the two Charles Pine grave marker rocks. Hopefully, they are still there and I can find them.
My volunteer time at the Scarborough Museum provided me access to resources that saved me time on my Find-a-Grave volunteering. I also learned a lot about Charles Pine, a definite “Ancestor of Place.” That’s a win-win.
Have you considered volunteering at your local museum or historical society? Not only will it help them, you might find it will help you understand the land better, regardless if you grew up there or if you are “from away.”

ENDNOTES

[i] https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=131264489
[ii] Henley, T. S., & Bentley, S. J. (1985). Dunstan cemetery records Scarborough, Maine: Stone inscriptions and old records combined and indexed. Maine: T.S. Henley and S.J. Bentley.
[iii] Moulton, Augustus Freedom; Grandfather Tales of Scarborough, Katahdin publishing company, 1925.

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George Hobbs & North Carolina Laws

It is always good to find corroboration of old family stories. Such is the case with George Hobbs.

Hazel Armstrong Valentine was the great-granddaughter of George Hobbs. In article #419 of Martin County Heritage,[i] she writes of family history and she mentions several things.  First, Hazel mentions that she, “always understood that Grand-pa’s folks came from the coast, around Ocracoke.”

I believe she is correct in that assertion. According to the REVISED STATUTES OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, PASSED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AT THE SESSION OF 1836—7, George Hobbs of Ocracock was a Commissioner for the port of Ocracock to examine individuals desiring to be pilots for Ocracock bar, the Swashes, and through Pamlico and Albemarle sounds. That statute clearly indicates that there were Hobbs’ in Ocracock (Ocracoke) then. I am not convinced the George Hobbs mentioned is the George Hobbs who was Hazel’s great-grandfather though. Examining pilots falls outside of George’s other known skills (as a lumber getter). Also, he would also be fairly young for such a posting, being only 32 years old at the time. It might have been George Hobbs’s father or some other relative. Anyway, the statute does confirm that there were Hobbs in Ocracoke at the time[ii].




Hazel also mentions that, “Many years ago, [she] was told that George Hobbs was a County Commissioner. [She] discredited this because the George Hobbs who fought in the Civil War died in prison or in the hospital during the war. The commissioner, if such there was, could have been J.A. Hobbs’ father.”

She is right, George Hobbs (1842-1865) did die in a prison hospital at Elmira, New York on 21 May 1865. Her suspicion that the commissioner could have been J.A. Hobbs’s father is, however, correct. The LAWS OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA PASSED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, AT THE SESSION OF 1848-’49 clearly indicates the a George Hobbs was a commissioner at Williamston, NC. This George Hobbs was J.A. Hobbs’ father, so, Hazel’s suspicion was correct[iii].

HH20 – George Hobbs (1804-c.1855)

52 Ancestors – Week 93

George Hobbs was likely born between 02 Jun 1804 and 01 Jun 1805[iv], probably in Hyde County, North Carolina[v]. Once source suggests that he was born in 1801[vi]; however, I do not agree because elsewhere in the same book a birth year of 1805 is provided. Additionally, the 1850 Census suggests a birth of 1804-1805[vii].

We know nothing of George’s youth. According to Hazel, the family bible states that he married Eartha W Gaskins on 29 March 1836. However, he had several children before he married Eartha.

There is apparently a child whose name is unknown that was born between 1825 and 1830 who is likely George’s. Also, his daughter Sarah was born between 02 Jun 1835 and 01 Jun 1836. If she was born in 1835, it is unlikely that she was Eartha’s child. If Sarah was born later in 1830, then she must be the mother and was with child before the marriage. As staunchly conservative as they Hobbs family was, I think it much more likely that George’s first wife had Sarah and possibly died in childbirth. Then George remarried quickly.

A son, Edward S was born between 02 Jun 1835 and 01 Jun 1840[viii]. The 1840 Census indicates George as the head of a household consisting of six people including one slave. He was employed in “Manufacture and Trade,” which would be fitting for his later occupation of “Lumber Getter.”[ix]

George’s second son, George Hobbs was born in 1842 in Beaufort, Carteret County, North Carolina. George is known to have died during the Civil War.

James Ashley Hobbs was probably born in October 1843. Different sources indicate he was born in 1841, 1842, 1843, and 1844. The closest census to his birth, 1850, indicates he was 6 years old at that time, making 1843 the most likely birth year[x].

Elizabeth Hobbs was born about 1847. (She was 3 during the 1850 Census.)

In 1849, George Hobbs was identified as being a commissioner of the town of Williamston and had the duty to manage the public burying grounds of the town, with other commissioners.[xi]

Later in 1849, another daughter, Hester Jane Hobbs, was born on 14 Sep[xii].

1850 Census indicates an apparent spouse named “M,”[xiii] and the Martin County Heritage book confirms that name[xiv]. That raises the question, Was “M” the same person as Eartha W. Gaskins or was “M” a third wife. If the latter, which were her children and which were Eartha’s? I will need to do more research into all the children and their lives and see if I can determine a timeline for his marriages and children.

George probably died before the 1860 census was taken, as he doesn’t seem to be listed in the 1860 census and his children are scattered across the eastern seaboard.

Further Research:

Who was the first wife of George?
Was George married a third time?
When and where did George die.

ENDNOTES:

[i] Hughes, S. J. N., & Martin County Historical Society (N.C.), Martin County Heritage (PO Box 468, Williamston, NC, Martin County Historical Society, 1980), 419 – George and Eartha Gaskins Hobbs.
[ii] REVISED STATUTES OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, PASSED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AT THE SESSION OF 1S36—7 (Raleigh, NC, PUBLISHED BY TURNER AND HUGHES, 1837), Archive.Org, Pages 467 & 468 – CHAPTER 88: PILOTS AND COMMISSIONERS OF NAVIGATION: Section 29. Board of commissioners appointed for Ocracock—Their duty in regard to pilots—Their compensation – Oath to be taken by them. https://archive.org/details/revisedstatuteso01nort.
[iii] LAWS OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA PASSED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, AT THE SESSION OF 1848-’49 (Raleigh, NC, THOS. J. LEMAY, PRINTER—STAR OFFICE., 1849), Page 434 | CHAPTER CCXL. https://archive.org/details/lawsofstateofnor184849nor.
[iv] 1850 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, Year: 1850; Census Place: Martin, North Carolina; Roll: M432_636; Page: 403B; Image: 443, Line 13.
[v] Hughes, S. J. N., & Martin County Historical Society (N.C.), Martin County Heritage (PO Box 468, Williamston, NC, Martin County Historical Society, 1980), 419 – George and Eartha Gaskins Hobbs.
[vi] Hughes, S. J. N., & Martin County Historical Society (N.C.), Martin County Heritage (PO Box 468, Williamston, NC, Martin County Historical Society, 1980), Article # 495 – Hettie Elizabeth Johnson.
[vii] 1850 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, Year: 1850; Census Place: Martin, North Carolina; Roll: M432_636; Page: 403B; Image: 443, Line 13.
[viii] 1840 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, 1840; Washington, Beaufort, North Carolina; Roll: 355; Page: 268; Image: 546; Family History Library Film: 0018092 – Geo Hobbs.
[ix] Ibid.
[x] 1850 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, Year: 1850; Census Place: Martin, North Carolina; Roll: M432_636; Page: 403B; Image: 443, Line 13.
[xi] LAWS OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA PASSED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, AT THE SESSION OF 1848-’49 (Raleigh, NC, THOS. J. LEMAY, PRINTER—STAR OFFICE., 1849), Page 434 | CHAPTER CCXL. https://archive.org/details/lawsofstateofnor184849nor.
[xii] Hughes, S. J. N., & Martin County Historical Society (N.C.), Martin County Heritage (PO Box 468, Williamston, NC, Martin County Historical Society, 1980), Article # 495 – Hettie Elizabeth Johnson.
[xiii] 1850 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, Year: 1850; Census Place: Martin, North Carolina; Roll: M432_636; Page: 403B; Image: 443, Line 13.
[xiv] Hughes, S. J. N., & Martin County Historical Society (N.C.), Martin County Heritage (PO Box 468, Williamston, NC, Martin County Historical Society, 1980), Article # 495 – Hettie Elizabeth Johnson.

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