By Don Taylor
I used to, mistakenly, say that there are no real “Brick Walls.” Typically, a “Brick wall” is just a difficult record to find or a record that isn’t worth paying someone else to find for you. In the case of Elizabeth, who married Burkett Vincent and had several children with him, including my wife’s 2nd great grandfather, John Vincent, there just might be a true brick wall. I have a couple more really involved actions to try but I’m not holding my breath thinking it will solve my dilemma.
Howell/Darling – Ancestor #37
List of Grandparents
- Grandfather: 4. James Dallas Howell (1879-1964)
- 1st Great-grandmother: 9. Susan R. Vinson Howell (1848-1910)
- 2nd Great-grandfather: 18. John Vincent (1817-bef. 1870)
- 3rd Great-grandmother: 37. Elizabeth Rose ? (1785 – 186?)
Elizabeth Rose (1785-186?)
I am yet to find a source for Elizabeth’s parents. I took a look at Ancestry Trees and found the following parents indicated:
- Forty-seven (47) trees suggest William Rose (1759-1801) and Sarah Crawley (1775-1863).
- Fourteen (14) trees propose Elisha Rose Sr. (1753-1795) and Hannah Sellers (1758-1812).
- Two trees indicate Elisha Rose and Pheroby Powell (died 1794).
I have not found any sources proving her parents identities. All suggest other people’s trees as their source.
It appears that Elizabeth’s husband, Burkett Vincent. Died before the 1850 Census as Elizabeth is enumerated as the head of a household consisting of her and one daughter, Nancy. Also, during the 1850 Census her son John is living next door.
Looking at censuses before 1850, Elizabeth would have been a female in the household of her husband, Burkett.
The Burket Vinson household of the 1840 Census included a female age 50 to 59 which is presumed to be Elizabeth. Additionally, there are males and females enumerated that align with Burkett (Jr.), John, and Nancy in the household.
The 1830 Census throws the monkey wrench into the works. None of the children of Burkett and Elizabeth are enumerated. Rather four different boys and three different girls are enumerated. All older. I suppose it is possible they were entered on the wrong columns, but I don’t know. My suspicion is that Burkett had a first wife and children with her. The children were still with him, and another female, possibly a sister of Burkett, was in the household.
This idea carries on even stronger into the 1820 census. There, living in Burkett’s household is a female over 45. Elizabeth would have been 35 in 1820. So, I don’t believe it is Elizabeth with Burkett in either the 1820 or 1830 censuses. A scenario wherein Burkett was married, his wife died, he remarried Elizabeth. Elizabeth appears to have had children from a previous marriage, who then took on the Vincent surname.
Of course, this is all speculation, but it does provide a plausible explanation for the conflicting Census Records.
What I think I know
- 1785 – Elizabeth was born – Parents unclear.
- 1835 – Elizabeth Rose possibly married Burkett Vincent sometime between 1830 and 1840.
- 1840 – Elizabeth is probably the female 50-59 in the household of Burkett Vincent
- 1850 – Elizabeth is the 64-year-old head of a household consisting of her and her 25-year-old daughter, Nancy.
- 1860 – Elizabeth is the 75-year-old woman in the household of her son, John, his wife Ellenor, and their six children.
- I believe that Elizabeth died sometime before 1870.
Further Actions / Follow-up
- Query private tree owners for birth source information.
- Detail the lives of each of the children of Burkett Vincent and Elizabeth Rose.
- Detail the lives of the probable siblings of Elizabeth Rose.
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